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    "He was really a steering job, I just tried to get him in amongst it and enjoying himself and that's one thing he definitely has done.

    "He loves passing horses and Paul [Nicholls, trainer] told me to make sure I had one to aim at after the last."

    Nicholls added: "I think he's probably better than last year, the lads at home say he is, it's just been a case of finding out how to train him.

    "He deserves to go for the Betfair Chase, I think, why ask him to concede weight in the Hennessy. He'll probably go to Haydock along with Silviniaco Conti.

    "The key to him is, even him he drops a few lengths behind, to not get after him and let him catch up in his own time and he loves passing horses.

    "Sam gave him a great ride, he's potentially a top-class jockey."

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    Are you Ruby in disguise?

    Good old Tidal Bay. What a star, writes Martin Greenwood.

    Approaching 13-years-old and off the course for almost 12 months, Tidal Bay won his second successive Bet365 West Yorkshire Hurdle at Wetherby on Saturday and confirmed he is as good as ever over hurdles in the process.

    For all his quality, Tidal Bay isn’t the most straightforward of customers and new rider Sam Twiston-Davies had obviously done his homework for he produced an almost carbon copy of the ride given by Ruby Walsh a year earlier. If anything, Twiston-Davies held on even longer than Walsh and produced Tidal Bay to lead close home after a mistake at the last. My pre-race figures suggested there should be around two lengths between Tidal Bay (160) and last season’s Coral Cup winner Medinas (154, receiving 4lb) and it very nearly worked out that way with a length between them at the line. I have left both those figures where they were, while increasing the talented but recalcitrant third Captain Sunshine from 140 to 145. His pre-race figure came from the Pertemps – a race which has worked out well in the main.

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    2013 Welsh Grand National Runner Up




    Tidal Bay 2014 Antepost Odds

    as at 09/01/2014

    BetVictor Odds are NRFB Bet365 NRNB on Gold Cup
    Gold Cup 50/1 50/1 50/1 33/1
    Grand National 20/1 25/1 20/1 25/1
    Last edited by Old Vic; 9th January 2014 at 08:54 AM.

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    Can he win a grade1 at 13?

    WHILE he had only one winner from six in 2013, as a general rule it is always worth considering backing Paul Nicholls-trained horses when they race in Ireland.



    Looking back over the longer term, he's had 23 winners from 58 races (40pc) since 2003 and, had you stuck a tenner on each, you'd be richer to the tune of 216.

    The strike-rate is even better for those that were ridden by former first jockey Ruby Walsh (62pc) and there's sure to be plenty of interest as the potent pair combine for the first time since November with Tidal Bay (3/1) in tomorrow's Hennessy Gold Cup at Leopardstown.

    The gelding proved he still retains plenty of ability when staying on for third in the Welsh National in late December in what turned out to be a proper stamina test on heavy ground.

    But it may not be quite so testing at Leopardstown and you'd have to question whether he can still cut it at Grade One level at the age of 13.

    Beef Or Salmon won this race as an 11-year-old in 2007 and Florida Pearl tasted success in 2004 aged 12.

    Generally speaking, however, older horses have struggled over the years and it would take an exceptional performance from Tidal Bay if he's to get home in front of his six rivals.

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    Tidal Bay (IRE) 13-11-10

    Breeding: Presenting - Rare Vintage (IRE) (Germany (USA))

    Breeder: John Dorgan

    Owner: Andrea & Graham Wylie

    Trainer: Paul Nicholls

    Jockey: Sam Twiston-Davies

    Form: 22/111221/111211/122345/24174/3226U/32541/121-1532



    Tidal Bay

    *Bidding to become the first 13-year-old to win the Crabbie's Grand National since Sergeant Murphy in 1923 and the first top-weight to triumph after Red Rum in 1977.

    *Failed to complete on only previous start in the race, unseating Brian Hughes at the 10th fence in 2011 when trained by Howard Johnson.

    *Won the Racing Post Arkle Chase at the Cheltenham Festival in 2008 and followed up with victory in the Maghull Novices' Chase at Aintree the following month. Went on to further Grade One glory in the Lexus Chase at Leopardstown, Ireland, in December, 2012.

    *Has produced outstanding efforts off top-weight in three of the country's leading handicap staying chases - winning the bet365 Gold Cup at Sandown Park in April, 2012, coming home second to future Gold Cup hero Bobs Worth (who was receiving 6lb) in the Hennessy Gold Cup at Newbury in December, 2012, and finishing a close third in the Welsh National at Chepstow in December, 2013.

    *Runner-up on his latest start in the Grade One Hennessy Gold Cup at Leopardstown on February 9.

    Race Record: Starts: 21; Wins: 4; 2nd: 8; 3rd: 3; Win & Place prize money: 54,085



    Andrea & Graham Wylie

    Background: Multi-millionaire Graham Wylie made his money in the computer software industry. He is the son of Scottish parents - his father was a coalminer from Stirling and his mother a seamstress from Hawick, where Wylie was born in 1959. After graduating from Newcastle University in 1980 with a degree in computer science and statistics, founded Sage in 1981 with David Goldman, Phil Lever and Paul Muller, selling accountancy software. The company floated on the stock exchange in 1989. After stepping down as managing director of Sage in May, 2003, Wylie sold a number of his shares and gained over 120 million. A huge Newcastle United fan, he married his second wife Andrea Stone at Slaley Hall, Northumberland in May, 2003 - the event was described as the "north-east's wedding of the decade," and was attended by over 250 guests, including Alan Shearer and Sir Bobby Robson. Pop superstar Ronan Keating performed at the couple's wedding (for a reputed 175,000), singing When You Say Nothing At All, from the 1999 film Notting Hill, which the couple saw on their first date. Graham Wylie founded a new company, Technology Services Group (TSG), in 2003. He owns Close House Country Club and golf course and Gosforth Shopping Centre, and was awarded a CBE for his services to industry in the 2004 New Year's Honours list. Graham's contribution to the North East region has been acknowledged by the award of honorary doctorates by both the University of Newcastle upon Tyne and Northumbrian University, and the freedom of the city of Newcastle. The Sunday Times Rich List in 2013 estimated he is worth 185 million. The Wylies live close to Hexham in Northumberland and Andrea has also excelled at showing dogs (www.transcendshowdogs.com), another interest they share, winning the best of breed prize at Crufts this year with her Maltese dog Hi-Lite Come Dance With Me. The couple's twin daughters Kiera and Zahra were born in December, 2009. Kiera was born with a defective heart, which has led the Wylies to fund raise for the heart unit at Newcastle's Freeman Hospital among other charitable endeavours. Racing Interests: Their first horse was Lord Transcend, named after Andrea's hair and beauty salon in Hexham. Lord Transcend won at 33/1 on his debut at Newcastle in March, 2002, and went on to prove himself a high-class horse over hurdles and fences, winning six times in all, before a leg injury sustained at Haydock in January, 2006, cut short his racing career. Having caught the 'racing bug' through the success of Lord Transcend, Graham and Andrea Wylie invested millions of pounds and built up a large string in training with Howard Johnson. At Doncaster's 2003 May Sale, Graham Wylie set a then record for a jump horse when paying 340,000 guineas for Royal Rosa, which was a wedding present for his wife. Howard Johnson was banned from racing for four years in August 2011, and as a result, the Wylies reduced their 60-strong string in half and sent 12 to British jump champion Paul Nicholls and seven to Irish jump champion Willie Mullins. Has seen his colours carried to victory at the Cheltenham Festival on eight occasions, most notably by three-time Ladbrokes World Hurdle victor Inglis Drever.

    Crabbie's Grand National Record: 2007 Bewleys Berry (Fell 22nd); 2008 Bewleys Berry (5th), Backbeat (Fell 2nd); 2010 Royal Rosa (UR 14th); 2011 Tidal Bay (UR 10th); 2012 On His Own (leased for the day) (Fell 22nd); 2013 On His Own (Fell 25th)



    Paul Nicholls (Manor Farm Stables, Ditcheat, Shepton Mallet, Somerset)

    Born: April 17, 1962. Background: Started out in racing as a jump jockey and partnered 119 winners between 1980 and 1989, with his biggest British successes coming in the Hennessy Gold Cup at Newbury on Broadheath (1986) and Playschool (1987). He struggled to keep his weight down and gave up race riding. Between 1989 and 1991, he was assistant trainer to David Barons, who trained Broadheath and Playschool and sent out Seagram to win the 1991 Grand National. Has been training at Manor Farm Stables in Ditcheat, Somerset, since taking out a licence on November 1, 1991. Achievements: Seven-time champion Jump trainer (2005/06, 2006/07, 2007/08, 2008/09, 2009/10, 2010/11, 2011/12) and became the first handler to accrue more than 4 million in a season in 2007/08. He gained his 2,000th winner at Down Royal on November 5, 2011, less than 20 years after taking his licence, making him the fastest Jump trainer to reach the landmark figure. Has sent out 34 winners at the Cheltenham Festival, including four victories in three of the meeting's showpiece contests - the BetVictor Queen Mother Champion Chase (1999 Call Equiname, 2004 Azertyuiop, 2008 & 2009 Master Minded), the Betfred Cheltenham Gold Cup (1999 See More Business, 2007 & 2009 Kauto Star, 2008 Denman) and the Ladbrokes World Hurdle (Big Buck's 2009, 2010, 2011 & 2012). Also won the Stan James Champion Hurdle with Rock On Ruby and Crabbie's Grand National with Neptune Collonges in 2012. Crabbie's Grand National Record: 1992 Just So (6th); 1996 Vicompt De Valmont (10th), Deep Bramble (PU bef 2 out), Brackenfield (UR 19th); 1997 Straight Talk (Fell 14th); 1998 What A Hand (Fell 1st), Court Melody (Fell 6th), General Crack (PU 11th); 1999 Strong Chairman (15th), Double Thriller (Fell 1st), 2000 Earthmover (Fell 4th), Torduff Express (Fell 13th), Flaked Oats (Fell 20th), Escartefigue (UR 30th); 2001 Earthmover (Fell 4th); 2002 Murt's Man (PU bef 17th), Ad Hoc (BD 27th); 2003 Montifault (5th), Fadalko (UR 6th), Ad Hoc (UR 19th), Shotgun Willy (PU bef 22nd), Torduff Express (UR 27th); 2004 Exit To Wave (PU bef 9th); 2005 Royal Auclair (2nd), Heros Collonges (8th), L'Aventure (15th), Ad Hoc (Fell 22nd); 2006 Royal Auclair (Fell 1st), Le Roi Miguel (PU bef 19th), Cornish Rebel (PU bef 19th), Silver Birch (Fell 15th), Le Duc (UR 8th), Heros Collonges (UR 15th); 2007 Royal Auclair (Fell 9th), Le Duc (UR 6th), Eurotrek (PU bef 22nd), Thisthatandtother (PU bef 30th); 2008 Cornish Sett (12th), Mr Pointment (PU bef last), Turko (Fell 25th); 2009 My Will (3rd), Big Fella Thanks (6th), Cornish Sett (17th), Eurotrek (PU 17th); 2010 Big Fella Thanks (4th), Tricky Trickster (9th), My Will (Fell 4th), Nozic (UR 20th); 2011 Niche Market (5th), Ornais (Fell 4th), The Tother One (Fell 6th), What A Friend (PU 27th); 2012 NEPTUNE COLLONGES (WON); 2013 Join Together (12th), What A Friend (PU bef 19th), Harry The Viking (PU bef 26th)



    Sam Twiston-Davies

    Born: October 15, 1992 Background: Sam Twiston-Davies was still studying for AS-level exams at school in Gloucestershire when he had both his first Cheltenham Festival winner and first Grand National ride. The son of trainer Nigel Twiston-Davies and his estranged wife, Cathy, (who both rode as amateurs), Sam was successful in pony racing before starting in point-to-points in the 2008/09 season when becoming eligible at the age of 16. Within a few weeks, on December 28, 2008, he rode his first winner between the flags, taking a race at Cottenham in Cambridgeshire on Grenfell, trained by his mother. At Ludlow on February 18, 2009, he scored his first success under Rules when partnering Baby Run, owned and trained by Nigel, to victory in a hunter chase. A career that was bound to flourish gained added lift through Baby Run, for he and Sam went on to finish third in the following month's CGA Foxhunter Chase at the 2009 Cheltenham Festival and later gained one of the season's biggest prizes in the Champion Hunters' Chase at the Punchestown Festival. Sam and Baby Run capped that in March, 2010, when returning to Cheltenham and running out easy winners of the CGA Foxhunter Chase at The Festival. Sam then went to Aintree and partnered Hello Bud into fifth on his Grand National debut. He turned professional shortly afterwards. Sam partnered Hello Bud to victory in the 2010 Becher Chase over the Grand National course at Aintree and that same month gave Little Josh a brilliant ride to land the Grade Three Paddy Power Gold Cup at Cheltenham. Twiston-Davies is enjoying his best ever season. He rode his father's The New One to win the Neptune Investment Management Novices' Hurdle at The Cheltenham Festival in 2013 and partnered Big Buck's to finish fifth in the legendary staying hurdler's final start in the Ladbrokes World Hurdle at this year's Cheltenham Festival.

    Crabbie's Grand National Record: 2010 Hello Bud (5th); 2011 Hello Bud (PU 29th); 2012 Hello Bud (7th); 2013 Imperial Commander (PU bef 22nd)

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    Can Tidal Bay roll back the years and tear the record books to shreds in the process?

    No teenager has won the National in almost a century and no topweight has prevailed since Red Rum in 1974.

    But Tidal Bay is no ordinary teenager and BHA handicapper has been kind in letting him race off a mark of 161.

    Victory would crown a remarkable career almost eight years to the day since he finished second in the Championship bumper here.

    And Tidal Bay remains a formidable chaser. The fact that his sole failure to finish came in this race three years ago is a slight concern, as is the likelihood that he will be dropped out in rear early.

    But this colourful veteran is clearly capable of coming swinging through to challenge with his old head carried high and proud if he fancies this challenge. In short, he's just too good to leave off the short list.

  7. #27
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    If Long Run has a good look and steps off the first, then that’s all good, if he goes at it and jumps it low though he could be in trouble. His jumping is normally very good and Nicky Henderson will have him in good shape, but at the same price I much prefer Tidal Bay.

    He stayed on incredibly well to finish second in the Irish Hennessy in Leopardstown and finished similarly well to come third in the Welsh Grand National. He is carrying top-weight and is 13-years-old but he is without doubt, the class horse of the race. It goes against the theory of first time National winners, but Tiday Bay hasn’t been in the race for three years and has the quality to put in a big run.

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