Fred Winter 2018

[Liammet]

Anyone know what rating Farclas has for this race ?

[Toffees]

Just to clarify, WilliamHill are Non Runner Insurance which is different. Cheeky of them.

I think 33s is still value in this though. Think he can jump better on good ground with a bit of pace and they might even throw some sort of headgear on him? He was 10s for the Triumph at one point with WilliamHill so they've lost faith in him He has scope for improvement though. Even on his Chepstow win they clocked a slow time in the first 2 furlongs which didnt help his jumping. Same can be said about his run in France.

And Voix Du Reve (139) and Campeador (141) both traded under evens coming up to the last when they fell in 2016. Golden Doyen (141) was top weight and travelling well enough the year before until he fell 4 out.

[Toffees]

What do we think to Gumball in this now after dropping to 140 after the weekend?

33s NRNB on WH.

Sorry that was in response to your comment Adam re Gumball.

[The Beast]

Minefield of a race from ante post view point , hard to fathom out if they come here. More plots than an allotment so personally will wait for the day before playing.

[Liammet]

Just seen Farclas has a rating of 129
Should be no problem getting in here
1 1/4 lengths off Espoir dallen certainly good form

[Scooby91]

Just seen Farclas has a rating of 129
Should be no problem getting in here
1 1/4 lengths off Espoir dallen certainly good form

You sure thats not his rpr it wouldn't be the norm to give him a rating after 1 run.
You'll see after the spring juvenile if he's up to going for the triumph or not.

[Liammet]

You sure thats not his rpr it wouldn't be the norm to give him a rating after 1 run.

Thanks scooby
Does that mean he will have to run again to get a rating ?

[Scooby91]

Thanks scooby
Does that mean he will have to run again to get a rating ?

They can request one and see if 1 is given. But the norm would be to go onto the spring juvenile and see where he's at.
Usually 3 runs warrants your mark

[Liammet]

They can request one and see if 1 is given. But the norm would be to go onto the spring juvenile and see where he's at.
Usually 3 runs warrants your mark

Thanks for the info
Do his runs in France count ?

[doctorwu]

Anyone know what rating Farclas has for this race ?

Im expecting Farclas to contest, go close, in the Triumph Hurdle.

[Scooby91]

Im expecting Farclas to contest, go close, in the Triumph Hurdle.

Can't see it personally. But we will soon find out in the spring juvenile if he can put it up to espoir d'allen, stormy ireland. Mr adjudicator. Will he come in for his run. Or was he flattered under a patient ride by letting the others doing the donkey work and trying to come with 1 run to no avail.

[doctorwu]

Espoir D'allen form stacks up every way you look at it. ED my main bet for the Triumph with Farclas as a danger. That'll do for me. I could pick the winner of every race if I backed 15 horses.

[doctorwu]

Wrong thread.

[Robbante]

Espoir D'allen form stacks up every way you look at it. ED my main bet for the Triumph with Farclas as a danger. That'll do for me. I could pick the winner of every race if I backed 15 horses.

Not true. Getabird was the 16th horse i'd backed for the Supreme this year the other day, so if he wins backing 15 horses would have done me no good at all in that race Still turn a slight profit for that race if one of the top 4 or 5 in the betting win, so it's more about the stakes and the prices for me rather than number of horses when trying to gain a profit

[Innoko]

Not true. Getabird was the 16th horse i'd backed for the Supreme this year the other day, so if he wins backing 15 horses would have done me no good at all in that race Still turn a slight profit for that race if one of the top 4 or 5 in the betting win, so it's more about the stakes and the prices for me rather than number of horses when trying to gain a profit

Care to share the list of the 16? Out of genuine interest!