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Irish Grand National 2013

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Thyestes over so time for a thread :). Probably some overlap with the 4 miler at Cheltenam.




Rich Revival has Irish National target

Mon 28th Jan 2013, 15:46


Rich Revival pictured on his way to victory at a foggy Navan earlier this Progressive chaser Rich Revival could have the rest of his season geared around the Ladbrokes Irish Grand National at Fairyhouse over Easter.
Now nine, Liz Doyle's gelding has only run twice over fences but won both starts in a beginners' race at Fairyhouse and then when staying on to land a handicap chase at Navan.

"I think we'll stay down the handicap route and possibly the Irish National is the race for him," Doyle said.

"He's rated 129 now, and you'd hope he could sneak in off a nice weight

"The four-miler at Cheltenham had crossed my mind, but I'm not sure all the ups and downs, particularly on quicker ground, would be ideal for him and it's probably not the race to go for."

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Irish Grand National 2013

Ok folks this lot out :)

Ladbrokes Irish Grand National S'chase (Grade A)
€141,000.00 ( 3m 5f - 5yo+ )[MAX 30]

FIRST FORFEIT: 27-MAR-13

NHFrm
130-4 1 Quel Esprit (FR)(158) (WPMullins) - . 11,10
p17-4 2 Junior (GB)(156) (DPipe (in GB)) - . .. 11,09
1-121 3 Roi Du Mee (FR)(156) (GElliott) - . ..... 11,09
21-1f 4 Boston Bob(154) (WPMullins) - . ....... 11,07
111-1 5 Back In Focus(152) (WPMullins) - . ... 11,05
4-122 6 Tofino Bay(151) (DTHughes) - . ......... 11,04
3-121 7 Alderwood(149) (TMullins) - .............. 11,02
7-654 8 Bob Lingo(148) (TMullins) - . ............. 11,00
26-41 9 Dedigout(147) (AJMartin) - . ............... 11,00
15-36 10 Forpadydeplasterer(147) (TCooper) 10,12
61-46 11 Lambro(143) (WPMullins) - . .............. 10,10
f-617 12 Rathlin (GB)(144) (MFMorris) - . ........ 10,10
2-115 13 Terminal (FR)(143) (WPMullins) - . .... 10,10
123-2 14 You Must Know Me(143) (Hde Bromhead) - . .............. 10,10
1611- 15 Lost Glory (NZ)(142) (JO'Neill (in GB)) - .......................... 10,09
22-64 16 Bostons Angel(142) (MrsJHarrington) - . ..... 10,08
8-00p 17 Quantitativeeasing(142) (NHenderson (in GB)) 10,08
33-u1 18 Realt Mor(141) (GElliott) - . ................. 10,08
p126- 19 Sea Of Thunder(141) (CByrnes) - . .... 10,08
220-2 20 Magnanimity(140) (DTHughes) - . ..... 10,07
13-21 21 Sweeney Tunes (GB)(140) (PNolan) 10,07
942p- 22 Galaxy Rock(138) (JO'Neill (in GB)) - 10,05
u-2f- 23 Gift Of Dgab(138) (AJMartin) - . ......... 10,05
23p-1 24 Prince Of Pirates(138) (NHenderson (in GB)) ...... 10,05
3f-71 25 Treacle(138) (TJTaaffe) - . .................. 10,05
21-37 26 Vesper Bell(138) (WPMullins) - . ........ 10,05
144-p 27 Carlito Brigante(137) (GElliott) - . ...... 10,04
3-611 28 Competitive Edge(137) (CO'Dwyer) - 10,04
5-533 29 Cootamundra(137) (JABerry) - . ......... 10,04
1-216 30 He'llberemembered(137) (PGFahey) . 10,04
5p-51 31 Home Farm(137) (ALTMoore) - . ........ 10,04
1221- 32 Jacksonslady(137) (JPDempsey) - . .. 10,04
140-4 33 Muirhead(138) (NMeade) - . ............... 10,04
f6-85 34 Quiscover Fontaine (FR)(138) (WPMullins) .......... 10,04
2-065 35 Whodoyouthink(137) (OMcKiernan) . 10,04
-3350 36 Klepht(136) (TMullins) - . .................... 10,03
-1-11 37 Rich Revival(136) (MissEDoyle) - . .... 10,03
1337- 38 Alfie Sherrin (GB)(135) (JO'Neill (in GB)) - . ......................... 10,02
122-3 39 Marasonnien (FR)(135) (WPMullins) . 10,02
4-001 40 Away We Go(134) (WPMullins) - . ...... 10,01
92-73 41 Romanesco (FR)(134) (GElliott) - . ..... 10,01
f2/-8 42 Royal De La Thinte (FR)(134) (JTRDreaper) - . .......... 10,01
4pp0- 43 Cross Appeal(132) (NMeade) - . ......... 9,13
617-8 44 Deal Done (FR)(132) (DTHughes) - . ... 9,13
-p149 45 Jadanli(132) (PJGilligan) - . ................. 9,13
60-42 46 Ninetieth Minute(132) (TJTaaffe) - . .... 9,13
356-7 47 Questions Answered(131) (EMcNamara) - . ........... 9,12
41/-1 48 Blazing Beacon(130) (FFMcGuinness) - ........ 9,11
p78-9 49 Start Me Up(130) (CFSwan) - . ............ 9,11
/p-00 50 Thegreatjohnbrowne(130) (NMeade) - . ................. 9,11
45-20 51 Toner D'Oudairies (FR)(130) (GElliott) - . ................... 9,11
p3-23 52 White Star Line(130) (DTHughes) - . .. 9,11


-----------------Noel O'Brien's anticipated cut off
357-4 53 Carlingford Lough(129) (JEKiely) - . .. 9,10
-0650 54 Imperial Shabra(129) (POBrady) - . .... 9,09
13p-0 55 Liberty Counsel(128) (MrsDALove) - .. 9,09
-1511 56 Rapidolyte De Ladalka (FR)(128) (SShirley-Beavan (in GB)) ............... 9,09
55-86 57 Sraid Padraig(128) (AJMartin) - . ........ 9,09
30p-9 58 Carloswayback(127) (PNolan) - . ........ 9,08
-1-33 59 Goonyella(127) (JTRDreaper) - . ......... 9,08
0-p9p 60 Medical Card(127) (AJMartin) - . ......... 9,08
7p-62 61 Orpheus Valley(127) (TGibney) - . ...... 9,08
115p- 62 Our Victoria(127) (CBowe) - . .............. 9,08
4-058 63 Paddy Pub(127) (KPurcell) - . .............. 9,08
41-49 64 Quietly Fancied(127) (OMcKiernan) .. 9,08
4-546 65 Tillahow(127) (MFMorris) - . ................ 9,08
-3576 66 Whatuthink(127) (OMcKiernan) - . ...... 9,08
160-0 67 Action Master (GB)(126) (DTHughes) - . .............. 9,07
4p-21 68 Gates Of Rome(126) (CAMurphy) - . ... 9,07
1-621 69 Storm Survivor(125) (JO'Neill (in GB)) ....................... 9,06
26p-0 70 Caduceus(124) (PHughes) - . .............. 9,05
4-34f 71 My Murphy(124) (WJBurke) - . ............ 9,05
2-131 72 Panther Claw(130) (PNolan) - . ........... 9,04
-p524 73 Sumkindasuprstar(123) (JOClifford) . 9,04
6-p8- 74 Another Palm(122) (NMeade) - . ......... 9,03
-41ff 75 Carry Each Other(119) (MFMorris) - .. 9,00
3u22p 76 Murchu(118) (JJHanlon) - . .................. 9,00
8-84p 77 Please Talk(119) (NMeade) - . ............. 9,00
3-775 78 Prince Of Milan(119) (ASlattery) - . ..... 9,00
1-633 79 Outlaw Pete(118) (JHalley) - . .............. 8,13
402-9 80 Victrix Gale(118) (AJMartin) - . ............ 8,13
4-43p 81 Knockgraffon King(112) (NMeade) - .. 8,08


Ladbrokes Irish Grand National prices:

8 Back In Focus, 8 Alfie Sherrin, 10 Boston Bob, 10 Lost Glory, 10 Romanesco, 10 Tofino Bay, 12 Carlingford Lough, 12 Ninetieth Minute, 12 Realt Mor, 12 Rich Revival, 12 White Star Line, 14 Boston's Angel, 14 Dedigout, 14 Home Farm, 14 Murchu, 14 Roi Du Mee, 14 Sweeny Tunes, 14 Terminal, 14 Treacle, 14 Vesper Bell, 16 Alderwood, 16 Deal Done, 16 Junior, 16 Marasonnien, 16 Outlaw Pete, 16 Panther Claw, 16 Rapidolyte De Ladalka, 20 bar (1/4 odds 1,2,3,4)
 
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Hoof said:
They can't seriously be thinking about Alderwood in this ?
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more likely to be in this imo

(4:30) 62F Powers Gold Cup (Grade 1) €58,500.00
( 2m 4f - 5yo+ )[MAX 20] FIRST FORFEIT: 26-MAR-13
SUPPLEMENTARY ENTRY: 26-MAR-13
NHFrm
3-121 Alderwood(149) (TMullins) - .............. 11,10
11-fp 2 Arvika Ligeonniere (FR)(153) (WPMullins) - . ............. 11,10
12-20 3 Aupcharlie(148) (WPMullins) - . ......... 11,10
123-2 4 Baily Green(158) (MFMorris) - . ......... 11,10
24-11 5 Benefficient(154) (AJMartin) - . .......... 11,10
21-1f 6 Boston Bob(154) (WPMullins) - . ....... 11,10
115-1 7 Buckers Bridge (Hde Bromhead) - . . 11,10
11-01 8 Canaly(134) (DTHughes) - . ................ 11,10
26-41 9 Dedigout(147) (AJMartin) - . ............... 11,10
14p-4 10 Dylan Ross(138) (NMeade) - . ........... 11,10
2f-42 11 Lyreen Legend(152) (DTHughes) - . .. 11,10
1-13f 12 Marito (GER)(147) WPMullins) - . ..... 11,10
1f-13 13 Mikael D'Haguenet (FR)(147) (WPMullins) - . ............. 11,10
p-241 14 Mount Benbulben(150) (GElliott) - . .. 11,10
f12-2 15 Oscars Well(149) (MrsJHarrington) - 11,10
4-265 16 Prima Vista (GB)(130) (NMeade) - . .. 11,10
33-u1 17 Realt Mor(141) (GElliott) - . ................. 11,10
4-21f 18 Rupert Lamb (GB) (WPMullins) - . .... 11,10
45-11 19 Savello(145) (AJMartin) - . .................. 11,10
13-21 20 Sweeney Tunes (GB)(140) (PNolan) . 11,10
44-0p 21 Sweet My Lord (FR)(131) (WPMullins) - . ............. 11,10
2-115 22 Terminal (FR)(143) (WPMullins) - . .... 11,10
3-127 23 Texas Jack(149) (NMeade) - . ............ 11,10
11-24 24 Twinlight (FR)(146) (WPMullins) - . ... 11,10
45-27 25 Dazzling Susie(134) (JFPhelan) - . .... 11,03
 
Senior National Hunt Handicapper Noel O'Brien gave his views on some of the field after the weights were unveiled:-

“There are 82 entries although unfortunately Bog Warrior was injured at Cheltenham. He would have been an interesting one.

“Heading them is Quel Esprit, a Grade 1 winner in the past and he had a very encouraging run at Leopardstown last time. He's dropped from his high to a rating of 157.

“Unless you are rated above 130 it doesn't look like you'll get a run. Lion Na Bearnai got a very stiff penalty of 27lb prior to the race last year but wouldn't have got in but for that and went on to win.

“Boston Bob was unlucky at Cheltenham and is toward the top end.

“Alderwood started off last season winning at Killarney before going on to score at three festivals and looks to be heading the same direction after a good win at Cheltenham.

“Bob Lingo won last year's Galway Plate and Forpadydeplasterer is a great old servant. Boston Angel ran quite well in the cross country at Cheltenham.

“Competitive Edge was impressive last time. Rich Revival will be one of the favourites while Romanesco ran very well at Cheltenham.”

“It looks a high-class renewal and very competitive.”
 
More odds

Back In Focus (10), Alfie Sherrin (12), Boston Bob (12), Tofino Bay (12), Dedigout (14), Lost Glory (14), Realt Mor (14), Rich Revival (14), Romanesco (14), Carlingford Lough (16), Home Farm (16), Ninetieth Minute (16), Panther Claw (16), Roi Du Mee (16), Sweeney Tunes (16), Terminal (16), Treacle (16), Alderwood (20), Bostons Angel (20), Marasonnien (20) , Sea Of Thunder (20), Vesper Bell (20), You Must Know Me (20), Away We Go (25), Carlito Brigante (25), Deal Done (25), Goonyella (25), Junior (25), Lambro (25), Magnanimity (25), Murchu (25), Outlaw Pete (25), Quel Esprit (25), Questions Answered (25), Quiscover Fontaine (25), Rapidolyte De Ladalka (25), Start Me Up (25), Storm Survivor (25), Galaxy Rock (28), Rathlin (28), Another Palm (33), Blazing Beacon (33), Bob Lingo (33), Competitive Edge (33), Cootamundra (33), Cross Appeal (33), Gates Of Rome (33), Gift Of Dgab (33), Hellberemembered (33), Jacksonslady (33), Jadanli (33), Klepht (33), Knockgraffon King (33), Muirhead (33), My Murphy (33), Orpheus Valley (33), Our Victoria (33), Paddy Pub (33), Please Talk (33), Prince Of Milan (33), Prince Of Pirates (33), Quantitativeeasing (33), Quietly Fancied (33), Royal De La Thinte (33), Sraid Padraig (33), Sumkindasuprstar (33), Tillahow (33), Toner Doudairies (33), Victrix Gale (33), Whatuthink (33), White Star Line (33), Whodoyouthink (33), Action Master (40), Caduceus (40), Carloswayback (40), Carry Each Other (40), Forpadydeplasterer (40), Liberty Counsel (40), Medical Card (40), Thegreatjohnbrowne (40), Imperial Shabra (66)
 
Questions Answered and Carlingford Lough two of interest...
 
I'd like White Star line if he got good ground ..might just scrape in wt bottom of weights.
 
The two that appeal to me at the minute are Home Farm who has a similar profile to 2011 winner Organisedconfusion and Marasonnien who looks an out and out stayer. They both should get a run with a nice weight and after all the rain around they will have their preferred ground
 
originalblink said:
The two that appeal to me at the minute are Home Farm who has a similar profile to 2011 winner Organisedconfusion and Marasonnien who looks an out and out stayer. They both should get a run with a nice weight and after all the rain around they will have their preferred ground
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Marassonnien caught my eye too...think he might be Mullins best chance. The nice weight thing is vital. Will probably wait for decs though. Any thoughts on top weight...presume QE goes to Aintree ?
 
Home Farm looks a cracking shout ...form with Marasonnien and White Star Line, course win , Arthur Moore ..nice weight. Thx.
 
Next decs 27 March...Wednesday ?
 
Rich Revival has won his last three starts in the style of a progressive performer and seems certain to get his favoured soft ground.

"He runs in the Irish National. The only worry we had was the ground, but that looks like it's going to be OK as we're washed out over here," said the County Wexford trainer.

"Everything will be spot for him ground-wise as he would need the word soft in it to run.

"It looks like we're going to get that, he has a lovely weight (10st 3lb) and we're looking forward to running him.

"He jumps well and travels really well. That's what you need for a race like that. A nice weight should give him a bit of a chance."
 
Updated Entries

Ruby on Marasonnien?

Rich Revival (steamer8), Magnanimity (steamer12), Marasonnien (steamer12), Romanesco (steamer12), Sweeney Tunes (steamer12), Home Farm (steamer14), Carlingford Lough (16), Dedigout (16), Panther Claw (16), Goonyella (steamer20), Questions Answered (steamer20), White Star Line (20), You Must Know Me (20), Carlito Brigante (25), Competitive Edge (steamer25), Cootamundra (25), Junior (25), Murchu (25), Outlaw Pete (25), Quiscover Fontaine (25) , Rapidolyte De Ladalka (25), Sea Of Thunder (25), Storm Survivor (25), Action Master (steamer33), Another Palm (33), Away We Go (33), Blazing Beacon (33), Cross Appeal (33), Hellberemembered (33), Jadanli (33), Muirhead (33), Orpheus Valley (33), Our Victoria (33), Paddy Pub (33), Please Talk (33), Quietly Fancied (33), Start Me Up (33), Tillahow (33), Toner Doudairies (33), Whatuthink (33), Caduceus (40), Carloswayback (40), Carry Each Other (40), Jacksonslady (40), Knockgraffon King (40), Liberty Counsel (40), Prince Of Milan (40), Sumkindasuprstar (40), Victrix Gale (40), Whodoyouthink (40), Imperial Shabra (66)

Think these weights below all go up 1 lb. If Junior a non runner I believe they will go up so bottom weight is 10st so could go up another 6lbs?

(4:50) 64E Ladbrokes Irish Grand National S'chase (Grade A) €141,000.00 ( 3m 5f - 5yo+ )[MAX 30]

p17-4 1 Junior (GB)(156) (DPipe (in GB)) - . ........ 11,09
26-41 2 Dedigout(147) (AJMartin) - . .................... 11,00
123-2 3 You Must Know Me(143) (HdeBromhead) - . .... 10,10
p126- 4 Sea Of Thunder(141) (CByrnes) - . ......... 10,08
220-2 5 Magnanimity(140) (DTHughes) - . .......... 10,07
13-21 6 Sweeney Tunes (GB)(140) (PNolan) - . .. 10,07
144-p 7 Carlito Brigante(137) (GElliott) - . ........... 10,04
3-611 8 Competitive Edge(137) (CO'Dwyer) - . ... 10,04
5-533 9 Cootamundra(137) (JABerry) - . ............. 10,04
1-216 10 He'llberemembered(137) (PGFahey) - . . 10,04
5p-51 11 Home Farm(137) (ALTMoore) - . ............. 10,04
1221- 12 Jacksonslady(137) (JPDempsey) - . ....... 10,04
140-4 13 Muirhead(137) (NMeade) - . .................... 10,04
f6-85 14 Quiscover Fontaine (FR)(137) (WPMullins) - . ... 10,04
2-065 15 Whodoyouthink(137) (OMcKiernan) - . .. 10,04
-1-11 16 Rich Revival(136) (MissEDoyle) - . ......... 10,03
122-3 17 Marasonnien (FR)(135) (WPMullins) - . .. 10,02
4-001 18 Away We Go(134) (WPMullins) - . ........... 10,01
92-73 19 Romanesco (FR)(134) (GElliott) - . ......... 10,01
4pp0- 20 Cross Appeal(132) (NMeade) - . .............. 9,13
-p149 21 Jadanli(132) (PJGilligan) - . ...................... 9,13
356-7 22 Questions Answered(131) (EMcNamara) - . ...... 9,12
41/-1 23 Blazing Beacon(130) (FFMcGuinness) - ............ 9,11
p78-9 24 Start Me Up(130) (CFSwan) - . ................. 9,11
45-20 25 Toner D'Oudairies (FR)(130) (GElliott) - .. 9,11
p3-23 26 White Star Line(130) (DTHughes) - . ....... 9,11
357-4 27 Carlingford Lough(129) (JEKiely) - . ....... 9,10 < Noel O'Briens predicted cut off
-0650 28 Imperial Shabra(128) (POBrady) - . ......... 9,09
13p-0 29 Liberty Counsel(128) (MrsDALove) - . ..... 9,09
-1511 30 Rapidolyte De Ladalka (FR)(128) (SShirley-Beavan (in GB)) - ... 9,09

30p-9 31 Carloswayback(127) (PNolan) - . ............. 9,08
-1-33 32 Goonyella(127) (JTRDreaper) - . .............. 9,08
7p-62 33 Orpheus Valley(127) (TGibney) - . ........... 9,08
115p- 34 Our Victoria(127) (CBowe) - .................... 9,08
4-058 35 Paddy Pub(127) (KPurcell) - . ................... 9,08
41-49 36 Quietly Fancied(127) (OMcKiernan) - . .... 9,08
4-546 37 Tillahow(127) (MFMorris) - . ..................... 9,08
-3576 38 Whatuthink(127) (OMcKiernan) - . ........... 9,08

160-0 39 Action Master (GB)(126) (DTHughes) - ....... 9,07

1-621 40 Storm Survivor(125) (JO'Neill (in GB)) - ...... 9,06
26p-0 41 Caduceus(124) (PHughes) - . ................... 9,05
2-131 42 Panther Claw(123) (PNolan) - . ................ 9,04
-p524 43 Sumkindasuprstar(123) (JOClifford) - . ... 9,04
6-p8- 44 Another Palm(122) (NMeade) - . .............. 9,03
-41ff 45 Carry Each Other(119) (MFMorris) - . ...... 9,00
3u22p 46 Murchu(119) (JJHanlon) - . ....................... 9,00
8-84p 47 Please Talk(119) (NMeade) - . ................. 9,00
3-775 48 Prince Of Milan(119) (ASlattery) - . .......... 9,00
1-633 49 Outlaw Pete(118) (JHalley) - . .................. 8,13
402-9 50 Victrix Gale(118) (AJMartin) - . ................. 8,13
4-43p 51 Knockgraffon King(113) (NMeade) - . ..... 8,08
 
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originalblink said:
The two that appeal to me at the minute are Home Farm who has a similar profile to 2011 winner Organisedconfusion and Marasonnien who looks an out and out stayer. They both should get a run with a nice weight and after all the rain around they will have their preferred ground
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Both still in there :D

White Star Line , Carlingford Lough and Questions Answered all guaranteed a run too.
 
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Connections of Alfie Sherrin say he has been taken out of Monday’s Irish Grand National because he “hasn’t recovered from Cheltenham”.
 
Key Irish Grand National Betting Trends

10/10 – Carried 10-12 or LESS
9/10 – Returned a double-figure price
9/10 – Had raced within the last 8 weeks
9/10 – Carried 10-8 or LESS
9/10 – Came from outside the top 3 in the betting
9/10 – Won over at least 3m previously
9/10 – Winning distance – 5 lengths or less
8/10 – Aged 9 or younger
8/10 – Irish bred
8/10 – Carried 10-5 or LESS
7/10 – Won by an Irish-based trainer
7/10 – Unplaced favourites
7/10 – Had raced at Fairyhouse previously
7/10 – Finished fourth or better last time out
7/10 – Rated between 130-136
6/10 - Came from outside the top 8 in the betting
5/10 – Had raced within the last 4 weeks
3/10 – Ran at Navan last time out
3/10 – Won by an English-based trainer
2/10 – Won last time out
0/10 – Winning favourites
The average winning SP in the last 10 years is 22/1
The last horse to win with more than 11st was Commanche Court (2000)
 
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