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Pertemps Final 2015

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  • Pertemps Final 2015

    I have added stats to http://www.fatjockey.com/cheltenham-...015-Trends-120

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    Weights at lunchtime

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    odds at 12/1/15

    Batavir (10), Big Easy (12), Ulzanas Raid (12), Cup Final (14), Katkeau (14), Brother Brian (16), Dara Tango (16), Usuel Smurfer (16), Vivaldi Collonges (16), Bears Affair (20), Junction Fourteen (20), Utopie Des Bordes (20), Champagne At Tara (25), Guiding George (25), Join The Clan (25), Sybarite (25), Upswing (25)out, Awaywiththegreys (33), Clara Mc Cloud (33), Closing Ceremony (33), Dawn Commander (33), Drum Valley (33), Henryville (33), Peckhamecho (33), Saffron Wells (33), Uncle Jimmy (40)
    Last edited by Old Vic; 25 February 2015, 10:29 AM.

  • #2
    anyone got a list of qualifers ?

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    • #3
      Lowest in last year was rated 135

      Musselburgh today

      Dawalan qualified today and rated 142 going in so will definitely get in if they want.

      Edeymi 135 going in and finished fourth and additional pound ir two from handicapper might be a help.

      Trustan Times also qualifies I believe.

      Punchestown qualifer

      Looking at ratings and adding on say 5 only Lite Duties and winner lean Arig likely to make the cut.

      Opinions corrections welcome.

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      • #4
        Punchestown winner won't bother going

        "I'm delighted with that and delighted with the way he battled. He had it all to do there and dug deep and it looked a goodish race and you'd have to think he has improved.

        "We've done very little schooling with him since the last day as I wanted to school him on grass and the land was very frosty. His jumping has improved with each run and today he was really taking them on.

        "Three miles definitely doesn't bother him but he could drop back in trip. He won't be going to Cheltenham as he's a young horse and I don't think he's ready for that, as there's a lot of hustle and bustle and also the travelling. I think he might be a nice horse in the future and could go to Fairyhouse instead and might be entitled to run in a novice later this month."

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        • #5
          It was Cheltenham Trials day at Musselburgh on Sunday and in the concluding Pertemps Qualifier there was a typically sneaky run under the radar from Tony Martin’s EDEYMI. His never nearer 4th gets him qualified for the Pertemps final at the Festival in March, a race that clearly looks the main target for this 7yo. They tried to get him qualified in the Leopardstown qualifier over Xmas but that was his first run for well over a year and he could only manage 11th that day. With that run under his belt, however, they had a fitter horse on their hands for this task and they were able to nudge and nurdle the horse into a qualifying slot without seriously threatening the winners spot (the stewards had a look, didn’t see anything wrong, job done as far as Martin was concerned).

          The interesting thing about this horse is that he already has some solid Cheltenham Festival form to his name with a decent 2nd in the 2012 Fred Winter behind Une Artiste. He also ran in the 2013 Martin Pipe Hurdle but was brought down 3 out before he could get involved. He ran off OR 139 in the Martin Pipe and OR 135 in the Fred Winter (the same as the mark he ran off in the Musselburgh race) so if he gets in the Pertemps this year (bottom weight last year was OR 135, same as year before) he will most likely be at the foot of the weights and running from the same mark that saw him go very close in the 2012 Fred Winter.

          The quiet ride from the inexperienced 7lb claimer (from what I can see he is yet to win a race under rules) at Musselburgh was clearly a qualifying job and nothing else. Essentially it was job done and the Martin plot is brewing nicely.

          - See more at: http://www.narrowing-the-field.co.uk....mvsA1hJI.dpuf

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          • #6
            Great find OV, that's something that can go in one of my ew accas, prob a few quid on it's own too, maybe wait for NRNB for that though.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by MrMcGoldrick View Post
              Great find OV, that's something that can go in one of my ew accas, prob a few quid on it's own too, maybe wait for NRNB for that though.
              Hope it works out

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              • #8
                Noted by timeform...

                Edeymi – Musselburgh, 1st February

                Edeymi is every bit as much of a destination horse as Bennys Mist, he just visits less often. He was guided to the Fred Winter as a juvenile, finishing second to Une Artiste, then was three flights away from a perfect run up to the Martin Pipe when he was brought down before being asked for his effort. Given he’s run in two Pertemps Qualifiers this winter on his return from a long absence (missed Cheltenham last year), we can make a confident guess as to his target this year.

                Tony Martin’s charge returned to Britain for the first time since that failed attempt at the Martin Pipe at Musselburgh on Sunday and he shaped as though everything’s coming into place for a big shot at the Pertemps. The same can admittedly be said of Dawalan, who won Sunday’s qualifier in good style, though Edeymi’s effort was only a little less obvious. He was left plenty to do up the Musselburgh straight and 7-lb claimer Donagh Meyler didn’t get everything out of him, the result being he finished fourth, beaten six lengths, with running left. A BHA mark of 135, which Edeymi ran off on Sunday and is the same mark he had in the Fred Winter, would have snuck into the Pertemps in each of the last two years and if he makes it in you can expect a much more prominent showing.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Old Vic View Post
                  Lowest in last year was rated 135

                  Musselburgh today

                  Dawalan qualified today and rated 142 going in so will definitely get in if they want.
                  Dawalan was well fancied by NJH in last years Fred Winter and was heavily backed. But ran a stinker.

                  He is defo an improver this season and worth another look in the Pertemps?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by loveracing View Post
                    Dawalan was well fancied by NJH in last years Fred Winter and was heavily backed. But ran a stinker.

                    He is defo an improver this season and worth another look in the Pertemps?
                    Going to be something less exposed ?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by mayo View Post
                      Going to be something less exposed ?
                      Past winners:

                      2014 Fingal Bay
                      2013 Hollywell
                      2012 Cape Tribulation
                      2011 & 2010 Buena Vista

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by loveracing View Post
                        Past winners:

                        2014 Fingal Bay
                        2013 Hollywell
                        2012 Cape Tribulation
                        2011 & 2010 Buena Vista
                        Game set and match to there LR. Must have a proper look at it.

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                        • #13
                          Donn on now too

                          Horses To Follow » *Edeymi

                          Edeymi

                          Edeymi put up a nice performance to finish fourth in the Pertemps Qualifier at Musselburgh on Sunday. Held up at the back of the field by Donagh Meyler through the early stages of the race, Tony Martin’s horse travelled well into the home straight, but he was further back than ideal in a race in which the front-runners didn’t come back. It was a race in which it was an advantage to race handily. The winner Dawalan raced just behind the leaders from early, while the runner-up Kruzhlinin led from the start to the run-in. Even so, Edeymi made good progress up the home straight among horses, and he stayed on well all the way to the line to take fourth place, doing best of the horses who were held up.

                          This was just Edeymi’s second run back after a break of 17 months. He finished well down the field on his return in the Leopardstown Pertemps Qualifier at the Christmas Festival, but this was much more encouraging. This performance, allied to the fact that Gigginstown House have held onto him, suggests that he retains a lot of his old ability.

                          And he is a horse of ability. He was a progressive handicap hurdler during the 2012/13 season, it escaped many people’s notice that he was travelling really well in rear in a fast-run Martin Pipe Conditional Jockeys’ Handicap Hurdle at the 2013 Cheltenham Festival when he was brought down at the third last. It was a long way out and he was a long way back, but they had gone so hard from early in that race, he could easily have been involved in the finish without that mis-hap. Later than year he won the big qualified riders’ handicap on the flat at the Galway Festival, beating Domination by a head, and he rounded off 2013 by finishing second to the same Domination – winner of the Ascot Stakes at Royal Ascot last year – in a three-mile hurdle at Cork.

                          Rated 127 in Ireland before Sunday’s run and raised to a mark of 130 now, he was racing off a British mark of 135 on Sunday, and that type of mark could be enough to see him sneak into the Pertemps Final at Cheltenham at the bottom of the weights. He is still only seven and, given that he ran in the Martin Pipe race two years ago off a mark of 139, that is a mark that should be well within his range. He seems to stay three miles okay, and he will be of interest wherever he runs next.

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                          • #14
                            another one from Donn


                            Alaivan



                            Alaivan ran really well to finish second to Regal Encore in the Pertemps Qualifier at Exeter on Sunday.

                            Fairly weak in the market beforehand on his first run since Aintree last April, the Jonjo O’Neill-trained gelding raced prominently under Maurice Linehan through the early stages of the race, just behind leader Aubusson, racing a little more keenly than ideal.

                            Third as they ran around the home turn, he moved up nicely between the two leaders on the run to the third last, and he probably just about hit the front, still travelling really well, between on the run to the second last flight. He was quickly joined by his owner’s other horse in the race, Regal Encore at the second last flight and, coming under pressure on the run to the last, he could not withstand the challenge of Anthony Honeyball’s horse. Even so, having been joined at the last by both Big Easy and The Tourad Man for second place, he stayed on really well on the run-in to secure second place, three lengths behind the winner.

                            This was a fine run by Alaivan, and a sure sign that he has retained lots of ability. He is a classy individual. A listed race winner on the flat for John Oxx, he won a Grade 2 hurdle at Fairyhouse as a juvenile for Thomas Barr and Edward O’Grady, and he finished fifth in the big Tote Handicap Hurdle at the Fairyhouse Grand National meeting in 2011 off a mark of 145 and under top weight of 11st 10lb. He has not won yet in seven runs now for Jonjo O’Neill, but he wasn’t beaten far in the Betfair Hurdle last season, and he ran well for a long way in a Grade 3 handicap hurdle run over two and a half miles at Aintree’s Grand National meeting last year.

                            That was the last time we saw him before Sunday, so it is understandable that he was a little keener than ideal in the early stages of the race. However, even allowing for the fact that he was keen, he saw out the three-mile trip well, and that opens up new options for him now. It should not be surprising that he possesses plenty of stamina, however, given that he is by Kalanisi out of an Ela-Mana-Mou mare who won over a mile and a half, a half-sister to Alamshar. These Aga Khan-bred horses usually stay well.

                            The obvious target for Alaivan now is the Pertemps Final at Cheltenham. The handicapper will probably raise him a couple of pounds for this, and that should be sufficient to get him into the Pertemps towards the bottom of the weights. He should improve on Sunday’s run, he should settle better with a run under his belt and behind the faster pace that they will surely go in the Pertemps, and it is significant that he goes well at the Cheltenham Festival. He was third in the Triumph Hurdle in 2010, and he was beaten a total of just two and a half lengths in the County Hurdle in 2011.

                            8th February 2015

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                            • #15
                              Does anyone know if Bear's Affair is going to the Fest?

                              He goes well on good ground and 25/1 looks value with Betavir the fav at 8/1.
                              The later received 23lbs -7lbs claim when he get the better of BA by 2&3/4L over 2m6f on boxing day.

                              Worth waiting for the weights you think?
                              Last edited by loveracing; 19 February 2015, 04:18 PM.

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