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2015 Supreme Novices Hurdle

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  • #16
    Originally posted by Hoof View Post
    fry keeps talking about jolly allan for the Supreme. Would they run both ?
    They Ran captain cwe bee against bino and Jezki againt Tenty in the Supreme - so yes imo.

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    • #17
      Breakdown of Sky Bet Supreme Novices’ Hurdle entries by trainer

      18 entries
      Willie Mullins IRE – Alvisio Ville, Aminabad, Black Hercules, Daring Carlotta, Dicosimo, Douvan, Kalkir, Lyrical Theatre, Max Dynamite, McKinley, Morning Run, Nichols Canyon, Open Eagle, Outlander, Royal Caviar, Sempre Medici, Shaneshill, Tell Us More

      5 entries
      John Ferguson – Commissioned, El Namoose, Parlour Games, Qewy, Zip Top
      Tony Martin IRE – Blair Perrone, Golantilla, No Dice, Okotoks, Velvet Maker
      Paul Nicholls – Apsatou, Chartbreaker, Ibis Du Rheu, Lac Leman, Vago Collonges

      4 entries
      Nicky Henderson – Cardinal Walter, Hunters Hoof, L’Ami Serge, Peace And Co

      3 entries
      Sandra Hughes IRE – All Hell Let Loose, Phil’s Magic, Sub Lieutenant

      2 entries
      Jim Best – Boru’s Brook, Kiama Bay
      Henry de Bromhead IRE – Identity Thief, Sizing John
      Harry Fry – Jollyallan, Jolly’s Cracked It Philip Hobbs – Risk A Fine, War Sound Alan King – Chatez, Karezak
      Mouse Morris IRE – Alpha Des Obeaux, Baily Cloud
      Lucinda Russell – Stylish Chap, Thorpe
      Dan Skelton – Fascino Rustico, Zarib
      Lucy Wadham – A Boy Named Suzi, Lanceur Dermot Weld IRE – Silver Concorde, Windsor Park Evan Williams – Laser Hawk, On Tour
      Venetia Williams – Aso, Otago Trail

      1 entry
      Jack Barry IRE – Bentelimar
      Jenny Candlish – Restraint Of Trade Rebecca Curtis – Beast Of Burden Philip Dempsey IRE – Mr Diablo Stuart Edmunds – Cloonacool Gordon Elliott IRE – Vercingetorix Brian Ellison – The Grey Taylor Tom George – Some Plan
      Warren Greatrex – Seedling Des McDonogh IRE – Theophilus Noel Meade IRE – Rich Coast Gary Moore - Dabadiyan
      Dr Richard Newland – Ebony Express David Pipe – Twentytwo’s Taken John Quinn – Chieftain’s Choice Nicky Richards – Glingerburn
      Pat Shanahan IRE – Hold The Line Nigel Twiston-Davies – Ballybolley Tim Vaughan – Nathans Pride Harry Whittington - Arzal

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      • #18
        Record of trainers with entries in the Sky Bet Supreme Novices’ Hurdle (since 1994 plus any winners beforehand)
        Year Pos Horse Jockey SP Jack Barry IRE (Bentelimar)
        No previous runners

        Jim Best (Boru’s Brook, Kiama Bay)
        No previous runners

        Henry de Bromhead IRE (Identity Thief, Sizing John)
        No previous runners

        Jenny Candlish (Restraint Of Trade)
        No previous runners

        Rebecca Curtis (Beast Of Burden)
        No previous runners

        Philip Dempsey IRE (Mr Diablo)
        No previous runners

        Stuart Edmunds (Cloonacool)
        No previous runners

        Gordon Elliott IRE (Vercingetorix)
        2013 7th Cause Of Causes Davy Condon 33/1

        Brian Ellison (The Grey Taylor)

        2004 9th Zibeline Graham Lee 100/1
        2011 11th Marsh Warbler Fearghal Davis 22/1

        John Ferguson (Commissioned, El Namoose, Parlour Games, Qewy, Zip Top)
        2014 12th Three Kingdoms Denis O'Regan 33/1

        Harry Fry (Jollyallan, Jolly’s Cracked It)
        No previous runners

        Tom George (Some Plan)
        No previous runners

        Warren Greatrex (Seedling)
        2010 16th Chain Of Command Wayne Hutchinson 100/1

        Nicky Henderson (Cardinal Walter, Hunters Hoof, L’Ami Serge, Peace And Co)

        1986 1st River Ceiriog Steve Smith Eccles 40/1
        1992 1st Flown Jamie Osborne 13/2
        1994 6th Barna Boy Mick Fitzgerald 10/1
        1995 10th Who Is Equiname Mick Fitzgerald 33/1
        1996 2nd Kimanicky Mick Fitzgerald 11/2
        1996 PU Brave Patriarch Brendan Powell 66/1
        1999 8th Perfect Venue John Kavanagh 50/1
        1999 9th All Gong Mick Fitzgerald 25/1
        2000 9th Dusk Duel Mick Fitzgerald 8/1
        2002 10th Got One Too Mick Fitzgerald 16/1
        2002 15th Dungarvans Choice John Kavanagh 25/1
        2003 3rd Chauvinist Mick Fitzgerald 20/1
        2004 3rd Fleet Street Andrew Tinkler 20/1
        2004 PU Perle de Puce Mick Fitzgerald 8/1
        2007 3rd Amaretto Rose Mick Fitzgerald 2/1f
        2008 2nd Binocular A P McCoy 8/1c
        2008 10th Khyber Kim Mick Fitzgerald 17/2
        2008 15th Sentry Duty Andrew Tinkler 11/1
        2009 8th Ainama A P McCoy 14/1


        2010 4th Oscar Whisky Barry Geraghty 11/1
        2010 UR General Miller Andrew Tinkler 25/1
        2011 2nd Spirit Son Barry Geraghty 5/1
        2011 3rd Sprinter Sacre A P McCoy 11/1
        2011 10th Gibb River Andrew Tinkler 22/1
        2012 2nd Darlan A P McCoy 7/1
        2012 9th Tetlami Barry Geraghty 12/1
        2013 2nd My Tent Or Yours A P McCoy 15/8f
        2013 8th River Maigue Barry Geraghty 18/1
        2014 2nd Josses Hill Andrew Tinkler 14/1
        2014 3rd Vaniteux Barry Geraghty 11/1

        Philip Hobbs (Risk A Fine, War Sound)

        1994 3rd Dreams End Peter Hobbs 12/1
        1996 5th Ashwell Boy Graham McCourt 25/1
        1998 8th Polar Prospect Glen Tormey 50/1
        2000 4th Phardante Flyer Mr Paul Flynn 50/1
        2002 3rd In Contrast Richard Johnson 16/1
        2004 11th Lacdoudal Richard Johnson 16/1
        2008 3rd Snap Tie Richard Johnson 20/1
        2009 4th Copper Bleu Richard Johnson 14/1
        2010 1st Menorah Richard Johnson 12/1
        2011 PU Dunraven Storm Richard Johnson 20/1
        2012 13th Colour Squadron Richard Johnson 14/1
        2013 10th Cheltenian Richard Johnson 25/1
        2005 6th Chilling Place Richard Johnson 9/1
        2014 14th Garde La Victoire Richard Johnson 33/1

        Sandra Hughes IRE (All Hell Let Loose, Phil’s Magic, Sub Lieutenant)
        No previous runners

        Alan King (Chatez, Karezak)

        2003 7th Jaboune Richard Johnson 50/1
        2004 8th Bourbon Manhattan Robert Thornton 20/1
        2005 15th My Way de Solzen Robert Thornton 8/1
        2009 2nd Medermit Robert Thornton 12/1
        2012 4th Montbazon Robert Thornton 15/2
        2014 5th Wilde Blue Yonder Robert Thornton 25/1

        Tony Martin IRE (Blair Perrone, Golantilla, No Dice, Okotoks, Velvet Maker)
        No runners since 1994

        Des McDonogh IRE (Theophilus)
        No runners since 1994

        Noel Meade IRE (Rich Coast)

        1998 7th Native Estates Paul Carberry 10/1
        1999 UR Cardinal Hill Paul Carberry 11/4f
        2000 1st Sausalito Bay Paul Carberry 14/1
        2002 7th Scottish Memories Paul Carberry 50/1
        2002 19th Snob Wells Carl Llewellyn 100/1
        2003 10th Rosaker Paul Carberry 11/1
        2004 12th Zum See Paul Carberry 16/1
        2005 2nd Wild Passion Paul Carberry 10/1
        2006 5th Sweet Wake Paul Carberry 5/2f
        2006 7th Jazz Messenger Niall Madden 22/1
        2007 13th Orbit O'Gold Niall Madden 20/1
        2008 12th Muirhead Paul Carberry 8/1cf
        2009 1st Go Native Paul Carberry 12/1
        2012 16th Dylan Ross Paul Carberry 20/1

        Gary Moore (Dabadiyan)

        1998 F Shahrur John Kavanagh 33/1
        2005 3rd Dusky Warbler Jamie Moore 20/1
        2008 13th Numide Jamie Moore 33/1

        2010 8th Vino Griego Jamie Moore 50/1

        Mouse Morris IRE (Alpha Des Obeaux, Baily Cloud)

        1983 1st Buck House Tommy Carmody 8/1
        1996 8th Mulligan Conor O'Dwyer 50/1
        1998 2nd His Song Richard Hughes 4/1f
        2004 2nd War Of Attrition Conor O'Dwyer 33/1
        2007 17th Shanghide Conor O'Dwyer 80/1
        2008 14th The Gloves Are Off Davy Russell 33/1

        Willie Mullins IRE (Alvisio Ville, Aminabad, Black Hercules, Daring Carlotta, Dicosimo, Douvan, Kalkir, Lyrical Theatre, Max Dynamite, McKinley, Morning Run, Nichols Canyon, Open Eagle, Outlander, Royal Caviar, Sempre Medici, Shaneshill, Tell Us More)
        1995 1st Tourist Attraction Mark Dwyer 25/1
        1997 6th Three Scholars David Casey 20/1
        1998 24th Really Chuffed David Casey 33/1
        1999 5th Wither Or Which Ruby Walsh 20/1
        2002 F Adamant Approach Ruby Walsh 12/1
        2003 14th Joueur D'Estruval Charlie Swan 14/1
        2003 SU Arch Stanton David Casey 25/1
        2004 6th Arch Stanton Shay Barry 33/1
        2004 13th Euro Leader Davy Russell 66/1
        2006 11th Quatre Heures David Casey 10/1
        2007 1st Ebaziyan Davy Condon 40/1
        2009 5th Cousin Vinny Mr Patrick Mullins 9/4f
        2009 12th Kempes Ruby Walsh 9/1
        2010 5th Flat Out Paul Townend 20/1
        2010 10th Blackstairmountain Ruby Walsh 12/1
        2011 7th Zaidpour Paul Townend 11/1
        2012 6th Allure Of Illusion Davy Condon 40/1
        2012 15th Midnight Game Paul Townend 18/1
        2012 19th Simenon David Casey 50/1
        2013 1st Champagne Fever Ruby Walsh 5/1
        2013 4th Un Atout Davy Russell 6/1
        2013 6th Pique Sous Paul Townend 25/1
        2014 1st Vautour Ruby Walsh 7/2jf
        2014 6th Wicklow Brave Paul Townend 8/1
        2014 10th Valseur Lido Bryan Cooper 16/1

        Dr Richard Newland (Ebony Express)
        No previous runners

        Paul Nicholls (Apsatou, Chartbreaker, Ibis Du Rheu, Lac Leman, Vago Collonges)

        1996 11th Call Equiname A P McCoy 10/1
        1999 11th Silence Reigns Joe Tizzard 66/1
        2000 7th Silence Reigns Joe Tizzard 20/1
        2003 5th Thisthatandtother Ruby Walsh 9/2
        2004 5th Garde Champetre Timmy Murphy 11/1
        2004 10th Albuhera Ruby Walsh 5/1
        2006 1st Noland Ruby Walsh 6/1
        2006 6th Natal Christian Williams 16/1
        2007 2nd Granit Jack Ruby Walsh 15/2
        2007 8th Kicks For Free Sam Thomas 22/1
        2008 5th Rippling Ring Ruby Walsh 10/1
        2008 PU Pasco Sam Thomas 16/1
        2009 13th Shamari Christian Williams 66/1
        2011 1st Al Ferof Ruby Walsh 10/1
        2012 5th Prospect Wells Ruby Walsh 14/1
        2013 9th Dodging Bullets Daryl Jacob 12/1
        2014 9th Irving Nick Scholfield 7/2jf

        David Pipe (Twentytwo’s Taken)

        2009 14th Leo's Lucky Star Tom Scudamore 50/1
        2009 9th Torphichen Andrew McNamara 7/1
        2010 12th Dan Breen Tom Scudamore 25/1


        2010 13th Dream Esteem Danny Cook 100/1
        2012 18th Catch Tammy Tom Scudamore 200/1
        2014 11th The Liquidator Tom Scudamore 12/1

        John Quinn (Chieftain’s Choice)

        2005 5th Aleron Russ Garritty 150/1
        2006 12th Crow Wood Russ Garritty 16/1
        2011 5th Recession Proof Robert Thornton 12/1

        Nicky Richards (Glingerburn)
        No previous runners

        Lucinda Russell (Stylish Chap, Thorpe)
        No previous runners

        Pat Shanahan IRE (Hold The Line)
        No previous runners

        Dan Skelton (Fascino Rustico, Zarib)
        No previous runners

        Nigel Twiston-Davies (Ballybolley)

        1994 1st Arctic Kinsman Carl Llewellyn 50/1
        1995 18th Taos Carl Llewellyn 11/1
        1996 4th Speedwell Prince Carl Llewellyn 25/1
        1997 9th Queen of Spades Carl Llewellyn 15/2
        1997 F Mister Rm David Bridgwater 25/1
        1998 3rd Gatflax Carl Llewellyn 16/1
        1999 12th Prominent Profile Carl Llewellyn 25/1
        2003 12th Tramantano Carl Llewellyn 100/1
        2006 19th Nikola Carl Llewellyn 100/1
        2008 11th Pigeon Island Paddy Brennan 8/1cf
        2009 PU Leamington Lad Paddy Brennan 150/1
        2010 14th Cootehill Paddy Brennan 66/1
        2014 15th Splash Of Ginge Sam Twiston-Davies 20/1

        Lucy Wadham (A Boy Named Suzi, Lanceur)
        No previous runners

        Dermot Weld IRE (Silver Concorde, Windsor Park)

        1994 9th Aiybak Brendan Sheridan 12/1
        1995 4th Blazing Spectacle Brendan Sheridan 11/2
        1997 PU Humbel Richard Dunwoody 7/1
        1998 5th Archive Footage Richard Dunwoody 10/1
        2002 18th Mutakarrim David Casey 25/1
        2003 9th Mutakarrim Timmy Murphy 14/1
        2005 9th Akshar Barry Geraghty 14/1
        2011 12th Hidden Universe Mr Robbie McNamara 16/1
        2012 7th Galileo's Choice Mr Robbie McNamara 6/1f

        Tim Vaughan (Nathans Pride)
        2012 11th Jimbill Aidan Coleman 100/1

        Harry Whittington (Arzal)
        No previous runners

        Evan Williams (Laser Hawk, On Tour)

        2010 7th Fiulin Paul Moloney 100/1
        2009 24th Cedrus Libani Paul Moloney 100/1

        Venetia Williams (Aso, Otago Trail)

        2003 6th Limerick Boy Tony Dobbin 33/1
        2007 9th Tyson Paul O'Neill 12/1

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        • #19
          Fry happy with Jollyallan and still says Supreme the target.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Morning Glory View Post
            Fry happy with Jollyallan and still says Supreme the target.
            Reaction generally very positive

            <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Think Jollyallan ran a fine Supreme trial today - that sort of ability behind a hardy 154 older horse puts him bang in the mix.</p>&mdash; Nick Luck (@nickluck) <a href="https://twitter.com/nickluck/status/561606898164977664">January 31, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

            <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Trainer Harry Fry on Jollyallan&#39;s close 2nd at Sandown: &quot;AP said the ground has beaten him.&quot; <a href="http://t.co/95Ph8N4x5G">pic.twitter.com/95Ph8N4x5G</a></p>&mdash; Tom Thurgood (@tdthurgood) <a href="https://twitter.com/tdthurgood/status/561517631254327296">January 31, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
            <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Garde La Victoire and Jollyallan are going to be some beasts over fences in the future.</p>&mdash; Rory Jiwani (@roryjiwani) <a href="https://twitter.com/roryjiwani/status/561515583993556993">January 31, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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            • #21
              Paddy Power and Boyles still 20/1 on Jollyallan for Supreme. Market still has Alvisio Ville as leading McManus horse.

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              • #22
                Hi Guys, bar the two market leaders . Who would be your each way picks?

                I Would need to see silver Concorde run again before being convinced to back it.

                Cheers

                Steve

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Aldie1988 View Post
                  Hi Guys, bar the two market leaders . Who would be your each way picks?

                  I Would need to see silver Concorde run again before being convinced to back it.

                  Cheers

                  Steve
                  Aldie I am holding fire until NRNB and hopefully 5 places or some other MBS. The Supreme is the best race of the year to bet in.

                  Jollyallan is on my list.
                  McKinley too but only with NRNB.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Yeehaa View Post
                    Aldie I am holding fire until NRNB and hopefully 5 places or some other MBS. The Supreme is the best race of the year to bet in.

                    Jollyallan is on my list.
                    McKinley too but only with NRNB.
                    Thanks will keep that in mind

                    Josses hill was my festival starter last year, followed it all the way to the festival.

                    Been harder to find a group of each way candidates to bear in mind, especially with the strength of L'ami serge and douvan, will hopefully get us some good prices with them being so short. Jollyallan is a good priced horse, better ground to suit??

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Aldie1988 View Post
                      Thanks will keep that in mind

                      Josses hill was my festival starter last year, followed it all the way to the festival.

                      Been harder to find a group of each way candidates to bear in mind, especially with the strength of L'ami serge and douvan, will hopefully get us some good prices with them being so short. Jollyallan is a good priced horse, better ground to suit??
                      Welcome Aldie.

                      AP said yesterday that they were beaten by the ground so probably yes. AV is the fly in the ointment though.

                      I would have thought it is 3 and maybe 4 weeks to we get NRNB.

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                      • #26
                        Thanks Vic!

                        Watched the forum for months so I thought I would bite the bullet ��

                        AV looked impressive last time out and I totally agree.

                        Will Shaneshill pick up his game?? The wylie horses have been very timid so far this season, would you agree??

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Aldie1988 View Post
                          Thanks Vic!

                          Watched the forum for months so I thought I would bite the bullet ��

                          AV looked impressive last time out and I totally agree.

                          Will Shaneshill pick up his game?? The wylie horses have been very timid so far this season, would you agree??
                          Wylies horses dont seem to have had the clearest of runs but wouldnt be writing them off.

                          Not sure what Shaneshill trip will be but expect him to come good in the Spring.

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                          • #28
                            identity thief could be worth backing in the supreme 33-1 in some places

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by roose88 View Post
                              identity thief could be worth backing in the supreme 33-1 in some places
                              Hard to knock a 33-1 shot but maybe needs further ? Hard to work Gigginstown horses out.

                              Identity Thief created a good impression when making a winning debut over jumps in the At The Races Maiden Hurdle at Leopardstown.

                              The Henry de Bromhead-trained four-year-old, owned by Gigginstown House Stud, followed up his bumper success at Fairyhouse with a stylish display under Bryan Cooper.

                              Leading before the final flight, Identity Thief (7-4) shrugged off the attentions of the 6-4 favourite Snow Falcon to score by half-a-length. The pair pulled nicely clear of Okotoks in third.

                              "I'm delighted. He jumped well," said de Bromhead. "Bryan thought maybe a faster pace would suit him and we might drop him back and try the Deloitte here in February. We'll see how he goes after that.

                              "He was impressive in his bumper and kept the dream alive here today. He's a really nice young horse to have.

                              "The ground was pretty nice when he won his bumper and I'd say he pretty adaptable.

                              "Bryan said he didn't really want him winging the second last and getting there too soon so when he fluffed it he got a nice lead into the straight."

                              Identity Thief was quoted at by BetVictor at 25-1 first show for both the Neptune and Albert Bartlett at the Cheltenham Festival.
                              Last edited by Old Vic; 2 February 2015, 03:47 PM.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Old Vic View Post
                                Hard to knock a 33-1 shot but maybe needs further ? Hard to work Gigginstown horses out.
                                I hope he runs well in the deliotte and goes supreme, tell us more for Neptune and no more heroes for Bartlett. Fingers crossed!

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