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    Cheltenham Gold Cup Thread

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    The bookies pushed out LONG RUN for the Gold Cup after making hard work of beating stablemate Burton Port at Newbury the other day but I still think he will win as the stamina test will really suit him. His win in last year's race was hugely impressive and he'll have been trained to peak again on Gold Cup day.

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    Forced Kin
    Shark feels Quel Esprit has absolutely no chance in Gold Cup.
    Robbie Power feels Long Run is very vulnerable. He feels there is a shock on the cards this year.
    Power feels this years race will be won by a 25/1 shot. Possibly Burton Port who is 'going well at Henderson's'
    Andrew Lynch thinks Long Run will win
    Davy Russell's view cannot see Kauto winning after such hard races this season. Long Run likely winner, but clock says Midnight Chase value
    Shark thinks Midnight Chase can only win if the others fall!
    Russell says Magnamimity has no chance in Gold Cup as he doesn't run

    Much of this was taken up discussing the merits of Long Run‘s last run, and whether Grand Crus would run
    Paul Jones thought the front two were vulnerable, and that Weird Al was the best bet at 20-1
    Andrew king thought What a Friend EW, although Paul Nicholls dismissed this saying 3rd was his best chance if everyone turned up
    Paul Nicholls said Kauto Star was in top form at home, as good as he has seen him
    Wasn’t sure Long Run had trained on, and that meant there was not a lot between them
    Philip Hobbs was asked about Captain Chris, he said he has always jumped right, so that was not an issue as such, however he was not at his best IF HE RAN it would be Ryanair or Gold Cup, however then said he wouldn’t really want more than 3 miles, so I give him next to no chance of running in the Gold Cup, and I got the impression he was by no means certain to run at the Festival

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    The mind games have commenced. Wenger (Hendo) and Ferguson (Nicholls)

    We started the year at Haydock behind Kauto Star where Ruby (Walsh) injected this huge burst of speed down the back straight where the turbo kicked in and then did the same thing at Kempton.I don't know if he will do that at Cheltenham but it is a different track to be doing it on as in a Gold Cup you tend to wind up the pace. If he is going to head for home a long way out then he has another two and half furlongs to go up a hill and that may be harder for Kauto Star and easier for Long Run.

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    Henderson has a point. Even at his best Cheltenham wasnt really KS track.

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    UCD Horse Racing Society, Dublin 27 Feb,

    Panel includes (copied from fb):

    Trainers like Philip Rothwell, Jim Draper and Paul Nolan
    Jockeys like Andrew McNamara, Davy Condon
    Jockey's Agent Ciaran O'Toole
    Journalists like Ryan McElligott,

    Gold Cup

    Ryan & O'Toole - Long Run
    Rothwell - Synchronised ew
    AMc - thinks "Burton Port was tenderly handled by Barry" on the last day BUT Two horse Race - Long Run
    JD - Diamond Harry after wind op


    Most agreed Long run would win the GC again,as the 3miles plus will suit him and will outstay kauto. Ruby was very honest about his chances on Kauto Star,Just thinks the extra 2 furlongs up that hill will suit LR and reckons he'll be very hard to beat,Ruby kept illuding to Kautos age
    5.20 Gold Cup

    DR - Long Run is the best horse in the race / Midnight Chase is a good e/w punt
    RW - Kauto needs to be at very best to beat Long Run - but he wouldnt back Kauto, nor would he get off him. Long Run should win it
    BG - everything is in Long Runs favour
    JH - Burton Port e/w
    PP - Long Run
    DMcC - Wouldnt back Long Run @ 5/2, and believes Weird Al willl push them and good e/w bet

    Gold Cup
    A wide range of views. Nina Carberry, Synchronised. Patrick Mullins, Kauto with a view that Quel Esprit is his value. Noel Meade thought the same with Quel Esprit. Andrew Lynch, Long Run. Paul Carberry, Kauto Star. Robbie Hennessy, Synchronised

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    Forced Kin
    Woodlands hotel WaterfordPanel
    : John Francome, Mike Cattermole, Jim McGrath , Jessica Harrington, Henry de Bromhead, Davy Russell, Noel OBrien ,Tom Segal, Hayley OConnor,
    MC Brian Gleeson
    Gold Cup
    JF, JM, NOB & MC - Long Run
    DR& TS - Midnight Chase
    HOC-Burton Port

    Nicholls showed a similar lack of fear of Long Run, saying; "I'm not convinced he's trained on this year. He had a lot of races in France when he was three and four years old. If Kauto Star doesn't run, it's quite an open Gold Cup."

    The champion trainer suggested that Burton Port, second to Long Run at Newbury recently, could have won under a more vigorous ride and alluded to the fact that both are trained by Nicky Henderson. To rumbles of approval from the audience, he said: "If anyone else had trained Burton Port, he would have gone past Long Run".

    Nicholls still hopes to run What A Friend and said he was a "massive" price for the Gold Cup at 40-1. Third behind Long Run and Burton Port, he "will improve enormously for the run. He's definitely got place chances".

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    Smoke and mirrors with Nicholls innit. Classic change the conversation rant. Seething imo.

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    Missed that Diamond Harry news. Just heard on Morning Line ,that he possibly misses Gold Cup with a leg infection

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    Forced Kin
    Eclipse magazine
    David Pipe said: “We would have liked to have gone to Newbury but unfortunately that was the only race not transferred. He has had enough experience, having had three runs. I wanted to get some runs into him early because you never know what will happen with weather, the well-being of the horses etc. He has made one mistake in three runs. He is quite laidback at home, but not in his races. He has jumped very well and gone round Cheltenham, Newbury and Kempton. He is obviously a very exciting horse. He finished close to Big Buck’s in the World Hurdle last year which shows how good a horse he is – that was a fantastic race and we nearly pulled it off.

    "Grands Crus was always going to be an exciting chaser. We won’t decide which race to go for at Cheltenham until closer to the time. We have to see what is left in the races and ground conditions. He is keen on the gallops and we are keeping him fit. Gerry Supple worked him this morning on the gallops and he worked well.”

    David Pipe said: “He ran well at Newbury over hurdles the other day. He got tired in the straight and everything leads to the Grand National. But we are hoping to give him a run before and that will be in the Grimthorpe at Doncaster, the JLT Specialty Chase or the Gold Cup. The Gold Cup has been a good trial for the National and there is another week between Cheltenham and Aintree this year. He was very impressive at Cheltenham last year when winning the Kim Muir. Unfortunately, he went up a lot for that and is now rated 153.

    "He is a real character but has done extremely well on the Flat and over hurdles and fences. The Newbury run will have blown the cobwebs out and hopefully we can take him to Cheltenham for one of the two races there. He will obviously be a big price in the Gold Cup but he stays all day and they always go at a good pace. He loves Cheltenham. He handles soft but prefers better ground.”
    Last edited by Forced Kin; 03-03-2012 at 08:37 AM.

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