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    Quote Originally Posted by Middle_Of_March View Post
    Whilst I agree that it’s potentially a very deep race on paper, I do believe they think Envoi Allen is a bit special. If he can jump, he’s going to take some beating.

    Take the price before he goes 7/2 favourite when hacking up on his debut in a few weeks.
    Couldn’t agree more MoM #2022 Gold Cup winner

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    Added Festival D’ex doubled with Advertise today

    Goffs Bumper winners tend to be pretty handy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morley Street View Post
    Couldn’t agree more MoM #2022 Gold Cup winner
    Love the optimism, but the Cheltenham Bumper isn't exactly a breeding ground for Gold Cup winners.
    Not sure many have even ran in the race, and that includes the placed and unplaced horses too.

    Can think of Cue Card off top of my head, and he was never going to win (no matter what the fan boys say) although that camera angle just before he fell was attractive. The Don would have picked him off no doubt.

    Then we might have to go back to the 90's and Florida Pearl & Alexander Banquet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quevega View Post
    Love the optimism, but the Cheltenham Bumper isn't exactly a breeding ground for Gold Cup winners.
    Not sure many have even ran in the race, and that includes the placed and unplaced horses too.

    Can think of Cue Card off top of my head, and he was never going to win (no matter what the fan boys say) although that camera angle just before he fell was attractive. The Don would have picked him off no doubt.

    Then we might have to go back to the 90's and Florida Pearl & Alexander Banquet.
    Fair enough QV and far too early for me to start defending a 2022 GC selection ...but really don’t think that EA was the stereotypical bumper winner and to quote Scooby, I’ll let him do his talking on the track.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morley Street View Post
    Fair enough QV and far too early for me to start defending a 2022 GC selection ...but really don’t think that EA was the stereotypical bumper winner and to quote Scooby, I’ll let him do his talking on the track.
    Quite right too.
    Although I think I called it the worst Bumper I'd ever seen at the time ?

    However, this is yet to be seen in terms of future winners coming from it, and they've had a reasonable start so far, so we'll see.

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    Envoi Allen is priced as if he's already made the improvement for an obstacle and step up in trip - at 8/1.

    His bumper form is good (obviously), but it's not sensational.... small winning margins - just doing enough? - a bit workman-like?


    He's hard not to like though, but there isn't a person that would bother to venture onto these pages that wouldn't already know about him though, and his price reflects that.

    Likelyhood is that people are right, and he does make the step up with distance and for obstacles.... but history tells us he'll need to, as usually champion bumper horse doesn't end up at the top table the following year...


    Point being, he's priced as if he's an anomoly already, so there isn't an edge now. 8/1 is very short...

    I want to get him in the book... I just don't feel I can justify a single on it. Maybe I'll try and roll up onto him
    Last edited by Kevloaf; Yesterday at 10:56 AM.

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    The champion bumper form has been franked so might be it was a high quality race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Don View Post
    The champion bumper form has been franked so might be it was a high quality race.
    There are always winners out of the champ bumper, but given Mullins had 1 runner + not many bumper runners all season, it's probably likely that it was a slightly below par renewal.

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