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Owner / Trainer Handicap Analysis - 2008 - 2018

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  • #76
    Not wishing to take the p*** Charlie , But do you think , You could pick one horse for each of the Handicap's
    You have analysed , Be interesting post fez to see result's from that ??.

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    • #77
      Originally posted by BigChaang View Post
      Not wishing to take the p*** Charlie , But do you think , You could pick one horse for each of the Handicap's
      You have analysed , Be interesting post fez to see result's from that ??.
      Yeh Il be doing a summary on Monday 11th with conclusions to a view to each handicap

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      • #78
        This site is good for trends and stats - http://www.gaultstats.com/

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        • #79
          Originally posted by charlie View Post
          Yeh Il be doing a summary on Monday 11th with conclusions to a view to each handicap
          Great Stuff !!

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          • #80
            Ruby and Barry at some stage Charlie ?

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            • #81
              Originally posted by mayo View Post
              Ruby and Barry at some stage Charlie ?
              Sure. Next up

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              • #82
                How good is it to see Paul Nicholls back with proper Grade 1 horses again? Owners must love him, even in those quiet few years he had he kept picking up big Saturday prize money just by actually running his horses often

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                • #83
                  I noticed the 9/2 on Skybet for Nicholls to have 2+ winners at the Festival has been removed, I wish I had put more on it now

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by charlie View Post
                    This site is good for trends and stats - http://www.gaultstats.com/
                    ...some supporting detail here as well, Charlie;

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by Eggs View Post
                      ...some supporting detail here as well, Charlie;

                      http://cheltenham.attheraces.com/trendspotting
                      Thanks eggs

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                      • #86
                        Barry Geraghty Handicap Performance 2008 – 2018

                        Year / Position / Horse / Price / Trainer

                        Wins in bold
                        Placed 2-4 in italics

                        Ultima
                        2016 / PU / Regal Encore / 25/1 / A J Honeyball
                        2015 / 1st / The Druids Nephew / 8/1 / N P Mulholland
                        2014 / 14th / Hadrian's Approach / 8/1 / N J Henderson
                        2013 / PU / Quantitativeeasing / 25/1 / N J Henderson
                        2012 / PU / Mossley / 16/1 / N J Henderson
                        2011 / 2nd / Carole's Legacy / 9/1 / N J Henderson
                        2010 / 12th / Character Building / 12/1 / JJ Quinn
                        2009 / 12th / Golden Flight / 25/1 / N J Henderson

                        Close Brothers
                        2018 / PU / Demi Sang / 20/1 / W P Mullins
                        2015 / 9th / Cocktails At Dawn / 14/1 / N J Henderson
                        2014 / PU / Ericht / 13/2j / N J Henderson
                        2012 / 11th / Triolo D'Alene / 7/1 / N J Henderson
                        2011 / 11th / Nadiya De La Vega / 20/1 / N J Henderson
                        2010 / 10th / Dave's Dream / 10/1 / N J Henderson
                        2009 / PU / Au Courant / 20/1 / N J Henderson
                        2008 / 1st / Finger Onthe Pulse / 9/1 / T J Taaffe

                        Cross Country (Handicap from 2008 – 2015)
                        Never ridden in the race


                        Coral Cup
                        2018 / 15th / River Frost / 25/1 / A King
                        2016 / 4th / Blazer / 8/1 / W P Mullins
                        2015 / 6th / Hammersly Lake / 14/1 / N J Henderson
                        2013 / 16th / Cash And Go / 10/1 / N J Henderson
                        2012 / F / Spirit River / 16/1 / N J Henderson
                        2011 / 5th / Solix / 25/1 / N J Henderson
                        2010 / 1st / Solix / 14/1 / N J Henderson
                        2009 / 10th / The Polomoche / 6/1f / N J Henderson

                        Fred Winter
                        2016 / F / Campeador / 8/1 / G Elliott
                        2015 / 14th / Arabian Revolution / 7/1 / J P Ferguson
                        2014 / 13th / Dawalan / 7/2f / N J Henderson
                        2013 / 15th / Megalypos / 8/1 / N J Henderson
                        2012 / PU / Soliwery / 22/1 / N J Henderson
                        2011 / PU / Celtus / 12/1 / N J Henderson
                        2009 / 16th / Higgy's Boy / 12/1 / N J Henderson
                        2008 / 6th / Siege Of Ennis / 28/1 / E P Harty

                        Pertemps
                        2018 / 2nd / Glenloe / 9/2f / G Elliott
                        2016 / 9th / Leave At Dawn / 11/2f / C Byrnes
                        2015 / 16th / Dawalan / 12/1 / N J Henderson
                        2014 / 7th / Mister Dillon / 20/1 / N J Henderson
                        2013 / 22nd / Top Of The Range / 8/1 / N J Henderson
                        2012 / PU / Thehillofuisneach / 12/1 / Jonjo O'Neill
                        2011 / PU / Lush Life / 10/1 / N J Henderson
                        2010 / PU / Erzen / 20/1 / N J Henderson
                        2009 / 13th / Galient / 14/1 / N J Henderson

                        Brown Advisory
                        2018 / PU / Movewiththetimes / 8/1 / P F Nicholls
                        2016 / 21st / Hunt Ball / 16/1 / N J Henderson
                        2014 / PU / Tap Night / 8/1 / Lucinda Russell
                        2013 / 9th / Giorgio Quercus / 40/1 / N J Henderson
                        2012 / 14th / Giorgio Quercus / 16/1 / N J Henderson
                        2011 / F / You're The Top / 16/1 / N J Henderson
                        2010 / 13th / My Petra / 18/1 / N J Henderson
                        2009 / 6th / Finger Onthe Pulse / 10/1 / T J Taaffe

                        County Hurdle
                        2018 / 14th / Bleu Et Rouge / 10/1 / W P Mullins
                        2016 / PU / Great Field / 7/1J / W P Mullins
                        2014 / 8th / Lyvius / 20/1 / N J Henderson
                        2013 / 13th / Punjabi / 22/1 / N J Henderson
                        2012 / 21st / Lifestyle / 33/1 / N J Henderson
                        2011 / 11th / Soldatino / 11/1 / N J Henderson
                        2010 / 17th / Bellvano / 11/1 / N J Henderson
                        2009 / 6th / Dave's Dream / 7/2f / N J Henderson
                        2008 / 16th / Larkwing / 16/1 / E McNamara

                        Grand Annual
                        2018 / 1st / Le Prezien / 15/2 / P F Nicholls
                        2016 / 9th / Eastlake / 12/1 / Jonjo O'Neill
                        2014 / 9th / Tanks For That / 12/1 / N J Henderson
                        2013 / 8th / French Opera / 20/1 / N J Henderson
                        2012 / 2nd / Tanks For That / 9/1 / N J Henderson
                        2011 / 18th / Tanks For That / 11/1 / N J Henderson
                        2010 / PU / You're The Top / 13/2f / N J Henderson
                        2009 / PU / My Petra / 11/1 / N J Henderson

                        Overall Summary

                        Total Rides: 66 (44 for Nicky Henderson)
                        Wins: 4 (6%)
                        2nds: 3
                        3rds: 0
                        4ths: 1
                        Losing Fav: 7
                        PU: 16
                        F: 2

                        A £10 level stake across all his handicap runners from 2008-2018 would leave you down -£435
                        • 44 rides for Nicky Henderson. 1 win. 2 places.
                        • 25/66 have PU, F or lost as favourite.
                        • 8/66 top 4 finishes
                        • 13th or worse 37/66 times
                        • Never finished in the top 5 in the County Hurdle, Brown Advisory or Fred Winter
                        • Never run in the XC
                        • 66% of his rides for Nicky Henderson but 75% of his winners with other trainers (P F Nicholls, N P Mulholland, T J Taaffe)


                        Conclusion

                        Going through Barry’s numbers makes me realise just how phenomenal Davy Russell’s handicap performance is.

                        BG is 13th or worse 37/66 times, 25/66 have PU, F or lost as favourite - doesn't make for great reading.

                        He went through a truly baron spell for Nicky from 2011 - 2015, where he came 2nd in 2/30 rides, and then no better than 5th in the other 28.

                        Matt Chapman's response (link below) to someone questioning how Barry handles Cheltenham is superb and on point. BG is a top jockey, of that there is no doubt. That being said, the numbers presented here wouldn't blow you away.

                        Rob from Bradford get's told what's what by Matt Chapman live on On The Line after questioning jockey Barry Geraghty's Cheltenham Festival form.Hit subscribe...


                        As I have said with some of the others, when you look at the success Barry has had in graded races at Cheltenham I doubt he gives two hoots about his handicap performance, nor should he, but as punters it is just something to be mindful of.

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                        • #87
                          Any owner/trainer/jockey requests? (need to be active for the last decade)

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by charlie View Post
                            Any owner/trainer/jockey requests? (need to be active for the last decade)
                            ...Philip Hobbs appears to have dried up, not sure what his record is. Richard Johnson worthy of consideration.
                            Last edited by Eggs; 22 February 2019, 07:01 PM.

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by Eggs View Post
                              ...Philip Hobbs appears to have dried up, not sure what his record is. Richard Johnson worthy of consideration.
                              Good shout. Il do RJ

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                              • #90
                                Paul Townend / Danny Mullins / David Mullins

                                RJ as above though would be first pick


                                Young Jack Kennedy as well

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