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Owner / Trainer Handicap Analysis - 2008 - 2018

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  • Absolutely fabulous effort here Charlie! Thank you very much for taking the time

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    • Minella Rocco
      Noble Endeavor
      Cubomania

      All positives

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      • Cracking effort from you Charlie, thanks for all of these this season.

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        • Awesome work Charlie, thank you. It’s people like you that make this forum the best.

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          • Cheers for the kind words people. Hopefully steer us towards the odd winner

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            • A big thank you Charlie, I wasn’t aware of many of those trends before reading your analysis and hopefully saved a few quid by steering away from a few of those Trainers & Jockeys over the next few days.

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              • Originally posted by charlie View Post
                Cheers for the kind words people. Hopefully steer us towards the odd winner
                In my opinion, this has been the best thread of the year.

                Absolutely incredible effort. Thankyou.

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                • Originally posted by Middle_Of_March View Post
                  In my opinion, this has been the best thread of the year.

                  Absolutely incredible effort. Thankyou.
                  That's kind of you MOM. I enjoyed your write up on the other thread. GL today

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                  • Think this body of work is worth a big bump. @charlie you've really excelled here and it would be a shame to see this lie forgotten - if there are updates that have significant import then great! If not, what a useful reference we have here for nearer the time.

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                    • Top Man Charlie!! Unreal work that

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                      • It’s a brilliant piece of analysis and work isn’t it and takes some of the hot air out of a few Festival betting myths especially JP McManus & Willie Mullins.

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                        • Bump.

                          Charlie isn't that active at the moment but did he do this including 2019 can anyone remember?



                          Gutted that Gordon Elliott isn't covered, means I've gotta do it myself

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                          • Originally posted by charlie View Post
                            Final Summary

                            I would have liked to have done more of these but started relatively late this year but rest assured, going to do loads more next year with more time.

                            There's nothing particularly new in each of these, but it puts them all in one place with some key stats and horses to look out for.

                            Owner - JP
                            Trainer – David Pipe
                            Trainer - Paul Nicholls
                            Trainer - Jonjo O'Neill
                            Owner - Gigginstown House Stud
                            Trainer – Willie Mullins
                            Jockey – Davy Russell
                            Trainer - Venetia Williams
                            Jockey - Barry Geraghty
                            Jockey – Richard Johnson

                            JP Summary

                            A £10 level stake across all his handicap runners from 2008-2018 would leave you down - £860.

                            Total Handicap Runners: 205
                            Winners: 10 (4.8% strike rate)
                            Placed: 26 (12% strike rate)


                            KEY STAT: Whilst the JP plot doesn’t exist, 3 horses accounted for 43% of all his placed runners over a decade, so look out for these three:

                            BOUVREUIL
                            2015 - Fred Winter – 2/22
                            2016 - Close Brothers – 2/20
                            2017 - Brown Advisory – 3/24
                            2018 - Grand Annual – BD

                            LE PREZIEN
                            2017 - Grand Annual – 8/24
                            2018 - Grand Annual – 1/22

                            NO COMMENT
                            2017 - Martin Pipe – 7/23
                            2018 - National Hunt Chase – 6/16
                            I would be interested to add the last 2 years in here.
                            and see how it affect's the overall stat's , Especially after this.
                            Years festival results.

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