Ultima Handicap Chase 2019

[JackieMoon33]

Yeah, I seen both have, thought that was old news though, Kealy banged the drum about him last week didn't he?

I'm happy to leave him alone myself.

It was enough for the Bookies to fill their pants it would seem

The stats are not great as you mentioned but they are there to be broken. Also, because this horse had his novice season interuppted after he won, this would not be the normal route for him.

[Old Vic]

31 jan

King added: “Yanworth is back in the yard and is cantering. I don’t know where he will go yet as I need to sit down and talk to Frank Berry (racing manager to owner JP McManus).
“He has an entry in the Stayers’ Hurdle at the Cheltenham Festival and he might go for that, but he will have other entries as well.”

Entries over Fences and Hurdles this weekend.

[Kevloaf]

I had a good look at Give Me A Copper a few weeks back and didn't think see what all the fuss was about.

Best price 8/1 now

Nicholls talking him up as a graded beast but I don't see where he's come to that from.

He's so bullish about every horse that if the bookies HAVE moved the market on his positives, that'd be a false price.

Paul Kealy is a good judge though, better than me anyway

[Can't Catch Me]

I had a good look at Give Me A Copper a few weeks back and didn't think see what all the fuss was about.

Best price 8/1 now

Nicholls talking him up as a graded beast but I don't see where he's come to that from.

He's so bullish about every horse that if the bookies HAVE moved the market on his positives, that'd be a false price.

Paul Kealy is a good judge though, better than me anyway

Couldnt agree more with that Kev. Every time I look at the horse I think I must be missing something. Easily discarded for me.

[archie]

Paul Kealy is a good judge though, better than me anyway

He's got the Gold Cup spot on.

[Humble Pie]

Couldnt agree more with that Kev. Every time I look at the horse I think I must be missing something. Easily discarded for me.

Nicholls always upbeat about
his team, nothing wrong with that but I don’t get it either.

[The Don]

Joke.... PN has no idea but moved a market big time. The ones that wins he doesn’t mention! Surely everyone knows that by now.....

[Kevloaf]

He's got the Gold Cup spot on.

He's not sat on 40/1 like me though

[JackieMoon33]

I had a good look at Give Me A Copper a few weeks back and didn't think see what all the fuss was about.

Best price 8/1 now

Nicholls talking him up as a graded beast but I don't see where he's come to that from.

He's so bullish about every horse that if the bookies HAVE moved the market on his positives, that'd be a false price.

Paul Kealy is a good judge though, better than me anyway

To be fair, Give Me Copper was seen as an RSA horse before injury. He is totally unexposed but still a crazy price for a hot handicap at Cheltenham.

[doctorwu]

Joke.... PN has no idea but moved a market big time. The ones that wins he doesn’t mention! Surely everyone knows that by now.....

Spot on The Don.

[doctorwu]

This is where I'll start:
Best RPR over 3 miles, not older than 8, Novice, or 2nd season novice, previous festival form.

That puts Give me copper out.

[ComplyOrDie]

This is where I'll start:
Best RPR over 3 miles, not older than 8, Novice, or 2nd season novice, previous festival form.

That puts Give me copper out.

Do you have a ranking as to which of them stats you prefer most to least or has no significance?

[doctorwu]

COD,
The 1st one is a MUST as every Ultima winner has had its best RPR over 3 miles.

Give me Copper only fits 2 out of those 4.

[ComplyOrDie]

COD,
The 1st one is a MUST as every Ultima winner has had its best RPR over 3 miles.

Give me Copper only fits 2 out of those 4.

Give Me A Copper isn't one I was keen on anyway tbh.

Horses that have never gone over 3m prior I assume are a big no? Or do you allow for them being unexposed, especially if they have festival form?

[doctorwu]

COD,
Being unexposed?? Every Ultima winner had been over 3m.
That could change this year, but until it does I'll stick with it. Its saved me from a lot of losing bets.