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Supreme Novice Hurdle 2019
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TORNADO FLYER:
"He can go up to two and a half miles, and if he is good enough to be a Ballymore horse, he can go to two-mile-five. He should be good enough for that. He has the speed to be a two-mile novice hurdler, but we will see when he goes jumping what he is able to do."
Thats before his debut this season, from Mullins.
Any race market bet if you think he's good enough imo. I'd rather him in the ballymore, who knows really.
"TORNADO FLYER*is a bit more of a work in progress. He was a bit raw and gassy, and will have learnt a lot from his win in the maiden hurdle.
I think he’s a horse with a huge future and hopefully he can progress through the ranks."
- Ruby Walsh, after LTO win.
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One horse Mullins is eager to get on the racecourse is Annamix, yet to be seen for the champion trainer since arriving from France last year, but once again prominent in Cheltenham ante-post lists.
Mullins said: “I need to get him out. He was doing great work last year and is doing good work again this year. He got injured last year.
“I was hoping we’d have a race under his belt now and come back for the race on January 5 (Lawlor’s of Naas Novice Hurdle), but it looks like a maiden hurdle somewhere now.
“I’ve been delighted how he’s been, but he needs a good dig in the ground – so he might end up down in Limerick.”
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Originally posted by Innoko View PostOne horse Mullins is eager to get on the racecourse is Annamix, yet to be seen for the champion trainer since arriving from France last year, but once again prominent in Cheltenham ante-post lists.
Mullins said: “I need to get him out. He was doing great work last year and is doing good work again this year. He got injured last year.
“I was hoping we’d have a race under his belt now and come back for the race on January 5 (Lawlor’s of Naas Novice Hurdle), but it looks like a maiden hurdle somewhere now.
“I’ve been delighted how he’s been, but he needs a good dig in the ground – so he might end up down in Limerick.”
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I can't be worrying about where he goes for his maiden tbh.
Min started out over 2m 2f, Vautour ran over 2m 2f (Deloitte) his race prior to his festival win and as has already been noted Champagne Fever ran over 2m 4f & 2m 2f (Deloitte) before winning the Supreme.
Getabird also ran over 2m 4f prior to the festival but obviously struggled in the race, with the excuse being the left handed track.
I'm more inclined to make a judgement if Annamix doesn't end up in either the Moscow Flyer or the Deloitte pre festival.Last edited by ComplyOrDie; 19 December 2018, 05:14 PM.
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I found this interesting:
Every year the first three home in the Champion Bumper are somewhat lazily inserted as the ante-post favourites for the following year’s novice hurdles. However, history will tell you that this is not the place to look for future Cheltenham Festival winners, as only two of the thirty horses to fill the frame between 2008 and 2017 (last 10 years) have won at the Festival subsequently, namely Cue Card (2009 - 2013) and Champagne Fever (2012 - 2013).
Whilst that statistic is rather damning, those who possess previous Cheltenham experience do have a very good record in novice events. Take this year for example; seven of the nine novice winners had run at Prestbury Park before, with Samcro, who won the Ballymore Novices’ Hurdle, and Laurina, who landed the Mares’ Novices’ Hurdle, the only exceptions. While 11 of the 18 runners who filled the places also boasted previous experience in the Cotswolds.
If combining these two factors, which means putting a line through those who contested the 2018 Champion Bumper and those who have no Cheltenham experience to date, the two shortest priced contenders are Al Dancer, who impressively won a handicap off a mark of
129 at Cheltenham last weekend, and Thomas Darby (Supreme Novices Hurdle), who made a successful hurdling debut at Prestbury Park in October. The former is unbeaten over timber and is clearly a very promising young horse. However, a glance at the form book reveals that the latter may be the horse to focus on.
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Originally posted by Cashew King View PostI found this interesting:
Every year the first three home in the Champion Bumper are somewhat lazily inserted as the ante-post favourites for the following year’s novice hurdles. However, history will tell you that this is not the place to look for future Cheltenham Festival winners, as only two of the thirty horses to fill the frame between 2008 and 2017 (last 10 years) have won at the Festival subsequently, namely Cue Card (2009 - 2013) and Champagne Fever (2012 - 2013).
Whilst that statistic is rather damning, those who possess previous Cheltenham experience do have a very good record in novice events. Take this year for example; seven of the nine novice winners had run at Prestbury Park before, with Samcro, who won the Ballymore Novices’ Hurdle, and Laurina, who landed the Mares’ Novices’ Hurdle, the only exceptions. While 11 of the 18 runners who filled the places also boasted previous experience in the Cotswolds.
If combining these two factors, which means putting a line through those who contested the 2018 Champion Bumper and those who have no Cheltenham experience to date, the two shortest priced contenders are Al Dancer, who impressively won a handicap off a mark of
129 at Cheltenham last weekend, and Thomas Darby (Supreme Novices Hurdle), who made a successful hurdling debut at Prestbury Park in October. The former is unbeaten over timber and is clearly a very promising young horse. However, a glance at the form book reveals that the latter may be the horse to focus on.
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