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  1. #1511
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    Quote Originally Posted by quevega View Post
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIprr1hNCeA

    brilliant documentary from racing TV on desert orchid.
    proper racehorse
    any trip
    any ground
    anywhere.
    although they had their doubts.
    Nice, will watch that this week Q.

    Before my time, unfortunately. Best grey I've seen is either Al Ferof or Smad Place

  2. #1512
    Quote Originally Posted by Kevloaf View Post
    Nice, will watch that this week Q.

    Before my time, unfortunately. Best grey I've seen is either Al Ferof or Smad Place
    loads of really good stuff that's relevant today,
    It was sadly before my time also.
    the left vs right handed debate is covered in some detail
    the ground debate is also covered
    and also the trip and track debate.

    They thought he wouldn't stay the gold cup trip for a few seasons.
    They thought he could only go right handed and was a stone worse at cheltenham.
    They thought he wouldn't go on heavy.
    They thought the gold cup would ruin him.

    Then he won the gold cup on bottomless ground and went on to win the king george again and the irish grand national carrying 12 stone.
    Really was a champion horse.

  3. #1513
    Sadly I’m old enough to remember Dessie and he was the single reason I got into NH racing, no-one can underestimate the impact he had on racing and what impression he had on the public.
    Back in the days when you had to buy a postcard and stamp to vote for Sports personality of the year, Dessie’s total votes were good enough for third.

    I don’t remember the stamina arguments around his Gold Cup participation, he won the Whitbread the year before his Gold Cup and of course went on to destroy an Irish National field with 12 stone.
    But he hated soft ground and didn’t like going left handed, which makes his Gold Cup all the more remarkable.
    Many of todays G1s were handicaps in his day and he would regularly lump 12 stone plus to victory.
    People forget he was runner up in 2 Champion Chases to Pearlyman who would be Probably make a few top 10/20 2 mile chaser of all time lists.

    He was a true warrior, the likes of will never be seen again....

  4. #1514
    Quote Originally Posted by quevega View Post
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIprr1hNCeA

    brilliant documentary from racing TV on desert orchid.
    proper racehorse
    any trip
    any ground
    anywhere.
    although they had their doubts.
    Cheers Quevega. Something for next week.

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