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all aboard Pads Ramses express
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It's exactly 100 years since the winner, ridden by Lester's granddad, started at less than 6/1 and 99 years since the SP was less than 13/2.
7/2 is a bonkers price. Most horses are 6/4 to even get round so you're effectively saying that Tiger Roll is odds on to win if he gets round.Comment
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I agree and am not backing tiger rollOriginally posted by archie View Post
But I wouldn't lay at odds against if he did get round.
Hard to argue he's not a better horse this year.
Couldn't back him but I'd love to see him winComment
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Having said that ... The Tiger Roll / Tiger Woods double is hard to ignore
#legends
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There's an argument that, if you agree that Auvergnat ran below par at Cheltenham, Tiger Roll's performance wasn't much of an improvement on last year. I don't lay horses but I certainly wouldn't dream of backing any horse for the National at less than 6/1.Originally posted by jack1092 View PostComment
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Tiger Roll is going to be 5/1 at least on the Saturday, isn't he? He has to be backed in this, even if purely as a saver imo.Comment
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Yeah they'll have to push him out.Originally posted by Faugheen_Machine View Post
I think I could let him win without backing him - win only in the National makes me sweat.
'Roary' / Tiger this year?
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Background information - Regal Encore (IRE) 11-10-08
Born: May 12, 2008
Breeding: b g King's Theatre - Go On Eileen (Bob Back)
Owner: J P McManus
Form: 1/12/2124/840174/53F1PPP/2PP1P8/03P1P-63
*Successful twice in Listed handicap chases over three miles at Ascot, taking Silver Cup in December, 2016, and Swinley Chase in February, 2018.
*Not disgraced when eighth in 2017 Randox Health Grand National. Also ran well third in valuable G3 Ladbrokes Trophy at Newbury in December, 2017.
*His best effort this season came when third when attempting repeat victory in Listed Swinley Chase at Ascot on February 16.
*Smart bumper performer who finished a seven-length second in the G1 Weatherbys Champion Bumper at the 2013 Cheltenham Festival.
*Bought privately by his current owner in September, 2012 after winning on his career debut in a February, 2012 bumper at Southwell. Was an eight-length winner of a bumper at Chepstow on his first run in the famous J P McManus colours in October, 2012.
*Anthony Honeyball purchased Regal Encore for £20,000 at the Doncaster Bloodstock Sales' Spring Store sale in May, 2011.
Jump race record: Starts: 33; Wins: 7; 2nd: 4; 3rd: 3; Win & Place Prize Money: £196,285
Background information - Ms Parfois (IRE) 8-10-02
Born: May 31, 2011
Breeding : ch m Mahler - Dolly Lewis (Sir Harry Lewis (USA))
Owner : Martyn Chapman
Form: 1/743131/3111222-62
*Very consistent eight-year-old mare who has been placed at G1 level.
*Won sole bumper race and two of her five starts over hurdles.
*Recorded three consecutive successes in novices' chases in autumn of 2017 before going on to finish runner-up in G2 National Hunt Chase at Cheltenham and G1 Betway Mildmay Novices' Chase at Aintree.
*Sixth on seasonal return in G3 Ladbrokes Trophy Handicap Chase at Newbury on December and then runner-up under 11st 4lb in Listed Midlands Grand National at Uttoxeter on March 16.
*The last mare to win the Grand National was Nickel Coin in 1951.
*Races in the colours of Dorset-based book distributor Martyn Chapman, who was born in 1951.
*Purchased for £50,000 by Anthony Honeyball on February 18, 2016 at the Tattersalls Ireland Cheltenham sale.
*Captured a 15-runner maiden on her only point-to-point start in Ireland in December, 2015.
Race record under Rules: Starts: 16; Wins: 6; 2nd: 4; 3rd: 3; Win & Place Prize Money: £143,586
Background information - Ramses De Teillee (FR) 7-10-05
Born: April 8, 2012
Breeding : gr g Martaline - Princesse D'Orton (FR) (Saint Cyrien (FR))
Owner : John White & Anne Underhill
Form: 4326/322121279-5122
*Progressive seven-year-old who was beaten three quarters of a length by Robinsfirth in the 15-runner G3 William Hill Grand National Trial at Haydock Park on latest start (February 16, 3m 4½f).
*Staying-on second, going down by a length and a quarter, to Elegant Escape in the 20-runner G3 Coral Welsh National at Chepstow on December 27 (3m 5½f).
*All three chase wins have come at Chepstow on heavy ground, the latest of which was in the Welsh Grand National Trial on December 8 (2m 7½f).
*Started out in Irish point-to-points, finished third and first in 2016. He was bought for £55,000 by David Pipe five days after his point-to-point victory at Ballyarthur at Tattersalls Ireland's Cheltenham sale on April 22, 2016 when consigned by Colin Bowe's Milestone Stables.
Race record under Rules: Starts: 17; Wins: 3; 2nd: 7; 3rd: 2
Win & Place Prize Money: £90,736
Background information - Daklondike (IRE) 7-10-04
Born: March 2, 2012
Breeding: b g Gold Well (GB) - Strong Irish (IRE) (Corrouge (USA))
Owner: Professor Caroline Tisdall
Form: 43164/41411P-P1UR
*Refused to race in the Eider Chase at Newcastle last time out (February 23).
*Unseated-rider at the fifth fence in the Peter Marsh Chase at Haydock Park in January.
*Game winner of the Tommy Whittle Handicap Chase at Haydock Park on heavy ground over two miles and seven furlongs on December 22.
*Won three handicap chases in late 2017 - at Wetherby, Wincanton & Newbury.
*Was successful on his only start in an Irish point-to-point and bought for £140,000 by David Pipe four days later at Tattersalls Ireland's Cheltenham sale on March 17, 2016 when consigned by Colin Bowe's Milestone Stables.
*Runs in the same colours as stable companion and fellow Randox Health Grand National entry Vieux Lion Rouge.
Race record: Starts: 15 Wins: 5; 2nd: 0; 3rd: 1
Win & Place Prize Money: £62,748
Background information - Vieux Lion Rouge (FR) 10-10-02
Born: March 2, 2009
Breeding : Sabiango (GER) - Indecise (FR) (Cyborg (FR))
Owner: Professor Caroline Tisdall & John Gent
Form: 1110/11103/390/111U267/116/4749-2PP
*Pulled-up in two most recent starts in the William Hill Grand National Trial at Haydock Park in February and the Coral Welsh Grand National at Chepstow in December.
*Fine second when a staying-on second to Walk In The Mill, beaten four and a half-lengths in the G3 Becher Chase over the Grand National fences at Aintree on December 8.
*Ninth in the 2018 renewal of the Randox Health Grand National without ever threatening to get involved after being hampered at the eighth fence (Canal Turn first time around) - the third successive year of completing the course in the great race.
*Sixth in the 2017 edition of the world famous four and a quarter-mile handicap chase, 27 lengths behind One For Arthur, and seventh in the 2016 renewal.
*Captured the 2016 Becher Chase by a short-head and was seventh in the same race in 2017, meaning that he has competed six times over the Grand National fences and has completed the course each time.
Race record: Starts: 29 Wins: 11; 2nd: 2; 3rd: 2
Win & Place Prize Money: £257,174
Background information - Rathlin Rose (IRE) 11-8-12
Born: May 25, 2008
Breeding : Bonbon Rose (FR) - A Plus Ma Puce (FR) (Turgeon (USA))
Owner : Fergus Wilson
Form : 21163/1/411P/3P6P121FP-40U7
*Unlikely to get into the 2019 Randox Health Grand National field.
*Dual winner of the Royal Artillery Gold Cup under Captain Guy Disney at Sandown Park in 2017 & 2018, plus being successful in the 2017 Grand Military Gold Cup under the same rider.
*Seventh in the Grand Military Gold Cup, with Disney up, on his latest start over three miles at Sandown Park on March 8.
*Fell four out when fading in the Randox Health Topham Chase at Aintree last year.
Race record: Starts: 23 Wins: 7; 2nd: 2; 3rd: 2
Win & Place Prize Money: £63,049Comment
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My two against the field are...
The Tiger win at 5/1 with a few free bets. Can’t disown him now despite his price. He’s hard as nails & takes his racing very well. He’s in better shape than he was 12 months ago & he’ll probably get more suitable ground! Impossible to ignore
Vintage Clouds 18/1 e/w. A dour stayer! Will be right at the bottom of the weights (provided he gets in), perfect age profile, 3rd in Scottish National = less question marks over the trip, dry forecast so should have his ground, will be his 2nd run since wind op which is a bonus, only worry is the quick 25 day turnaround from the Ultima! Owner buys them with the GN in mind & related to the great Many Clouds. What’s not to like?Last edited by SeanRock; 21 March 2019, 07:28 PM.Comment
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He is only related to Many Clouds through the stallion. The dam is a very different story and is where most stamina is derived from. I can see Vintage Clouds may be more like Cloudy Lane rather than Many Clouds and my eyes told me that Lake View Lad was catching the front two in the Ultima. Lake View Lad just keeps improving and he is Hemmings' best hope in my humble opinion. Never fallen over the larger obstacles and quite importantly, for me, has never ever pulled up. That suggests to me that this boy is akin to a Duracell bunny!
Vintage Clouds just doesn't strike me as Grand National horse. 5 runs over 28f plus with form figures of 3743P. Respectable enough but not seeing him producing a win in the big one. This isn't the Welsh or Scottish National. This is much much harder to win.Comment
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