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  • Retained Jumps Jockeys

    Dai Waters is the latest big profile jumps owner to be looking for one according to The Times. Off top of my head we now have ?

    JP - AP
    Giggy - Bryan Cooper
    Barry Connell - Danny Mullins
    Potts - Andrew Lynch
    Dai - ?

    Timmy and Davy both released from roles lately but not sure who he can get ?

    Contrary view on the whole trend below - like the Piggott story

    Very much a case of the tail wagging the dog

    Saturday, January 11, 2014

    The recent dismissal of Davy Russell as first jockey to Michael O’Leary’s Gigginstown House Stud poses a question or two.

    The first that comes to mind is why do rich and powerful owners feel the need to have their own jockey in the first place?

    “Is it an ego thing?’’ asked a trainer, privately of course, at Thurles on Monday and that is at least a possible reason.

    After all, if you have enough money to buy just about anything you want in life, then having your own jockey might well be regarded as simply an extra toy!

    Trainers, especially the more successful ones, have a system in place that they use day in and day out.

    They know it works and very much part of the system is that have their own team.

    The team are usually with the trainer for a long time and are well aware of how he thinks and operates. The trainer in turn trusts them implicitly.

    But when an owner insists on his own jockey then he imposes that rider on a trainer.

    You will never hear a word of complaint from trainers, certainly not for public consumption.

    They will always take a horse irrespective of who is going to ride it. Putting principle before reality is just not a runner.

    Principle certainly has no part to play when dealing with the top owners, who are likely to send you many horses. The more you get from someone, the greater the chance of particularly decent sorts being among them.

    It has to drive at least some of the trainers daft, but they suck it up and get on with life.

    And so jockeys, who are contracted to specific owners, often move around like nomads to all sorts of different trainers and become guests for the day.

    That is all they will ever be, guests, and whether welcome or unwelcome is the interesting question.

    Why many of the leading owners think like this is hard enough to understand. They clearly fit into the genius category when it comes to business, otherwise wouldn’t be in the position in which they find themselves.

    They are blessed with an entrepreneurial acumen that the vast, vast majority of us do not possess.

    So why does such clear thinking in the business world seemingly not extend to horse racing? Let’s take two examples, the Willie Mullins and Noel Meade stables.

    I mean how many owners over the years have given Mullins and Meade a horse, on the basis they will be ridden by Ruby Walsh and Paul Carberry respectively?

    But when an owner with his own jockey sends a horse to these two trainers they are effectively ruling out two of the greatest pilots, not just riding today, but of all time.

    It seems silly and brings to mind a story a trainer told me a number of years ago. It had to do with a horse he had that was beaten into second in a driving finish at Royal Ascot.

    At the time flat jockeys riding in Ireland were regarded as second-class citizens, something that was completely changed subsequently by Michael Kinane.

    Anyway, the said trainer stayed loyal to an Irish based jockey and, after the horse was narrowly beaten, he met the late Paddy Prendergast senior.

    “Jeez, wasn’t I unlucky today,” he remarked to Prendergast. He got no sympathy whatsoever, however, with Prendergast responding: “No you weren’t, I watched the race in the stands with Piggott.”

    A colleague at Thurles on Monday put it well when he said: “Not using Walsh or Carberry is like Kerry leaving The Gooch on the sideline.’’

    But, undaunted, these owners trundle on and the trainers, who eat, drink and sleep with their horses, and clearly know them best, often find themselves sidelined.

    Here’s another tale that is utterly true. An Irish trainer, literally on his deathbed, was visited by one of his employees, who told him of his plans to train.

    “Don’t,” said your man in the bed, “you’re not tough enough. When dealing with owners all you should leave them is their eyes with which to cry and you wouldn’t be able to do that.”

    Owners have obviously come a long way since then, although there is now the feeling that, at least in some instances, it is a case of the tail very much wagging the dog.

    Back to the firing of Russell by Gigginstown and the whole mystery of that sorry episode.

    Gigginstown has been a fantastic plus for Irish National Hunt racing and punters love those maroon colours, because they always feel they are going to get a decent run for their money.

    The organisation has poured massive money into the game, have given lots of employment and their input has been just about entirely positive.

    But the Russell firing has left a sour taste and the reception the rider got when winning on Thats The Dream at Tramore on New Year’s Day was a fair indication of where the public’s sympathies lie.

    No reason has been given for the parting and that is most unsatisfactory, even accepting their right to do what they think is best for them, he who pays the piper calls the tune and all such blather.

    This week I went through all of Russell’s rides for Gigginstown since the Listowel festival and failed to come up with one where you could argue he should have won, when he didn’t.

    I would even venture to suggest that the Russell of today, the champion jockey of the last two seasons, is a better rider than when first installed as Gigginstown top gun.

  • #2
    Not many really odd thing is owners rather than trainers doing the retaining

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    • #3
      Mutual admiration society


      De Bromhead revealed: "I was a little bit worried about going left handed as he jumped a bit right in Navan but they can come up the stand's side here which Davy did. He did it well and jumped well.

      "I was delighted to get the horse from the Flanagan's and we're getting to know him now and he's a nice horse to have.

      "He did a lot of slow work before Navan and I've got stuck into him since and he takes his work well.

      "We'll look for a winners novice chase."

      Meanwhile Russell's summation went as follows: "You'd have to be impressed with the way he done things. Typical for one of Henry's he jumped from fence to fence. He was fit and it's a pleasure to be riding for someone like that.

      "He's quite strong and sturdy and from the first to the last I never had to change his mind - it was always going forward." (AM & EM)

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      • #4
        OUNG jockey Jonathan Burke has landed one of the biggest jobs in Irish jump racing, replacing Andrew Lynch as first rider for Alan and Ann Potts.

        The Potts are best known for the exploits of Sizing Europe, who was being considered for retirement before connections opted to remain in training, with an October return at Gowran Park pencilled in for the 12-year-old.

        He will now have the assistance of a rider only six years his senior in Burke, who rode his first winner in 2012.

        In his short career Burke, son of trainer Liam Burke, has ridden 30 winners under rules. His biggest victory to date came aboard the Willie Mullins-trained Very Much So in the Goffs Land Rover Bumper at Punchestown earlier this year.

        Burke said: "I'm really excited to have been given this massive chance so young. I'd like to thank Mr and Mrs Potts and Henry [de Bromhead] and Jim [Dreaper] and all their staff for supporting me and making this possible.

        The Potts have spread their patronage between De Bromhead and Jim Dreaper. Burke's first rides in his new role will come on Wednesday, when he partners the De Bromhead-trained Loosen My Load, and the Dreaper-trained Cavite Beta at Galway.

        Paddy Power offer 6-4 Burke rides a winner at the Cheltenham Festival next year.

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        • #5
          Did well last night ...promising young jock.

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          • #6
            Danny Mullins loses the Barry Connell job. Adrian Heskin the new man.

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